Tony Ryall replied to me july 7th about swine flu vaccines -
The Ministry of Health has ordered and initial supply of 300,000 doses of influenza A(H1N1) vaccine from Baxter Healthcare. Before it can be used in New Zealand, the vaccine has to be assessed by Medsafe, New Zealand’s medicines regulatory authority. Medsafe clinical experts will review data from clinical trials to determine the vaccine’s quality, safety and effectiveness, and make recommendations to me as minister about the use of the vaccine in this country. Baxter Healthcare (or any other commercial company) has no influence on any recommendation made by Medsafe, or on my decision.
I am astounded they ordered an initial supply without first having proof that it is not dangerous, why he isn’t personally more informed about this crap surely he has an internet connection and knows what google is!

Given that Tony Ryall is an Executive Member of the Board of the WHO (World Health Organisation) who are recommending to their 194 member countries for mandatory vaccinations, do you really think he is going to be impartial and without an agenda to push?!? (WHO’s agenda!)
Want proof of his status? Visit here:
http://www.who.int/governance/eb/eb_members/en/index.html

This is not Amerrikka, Tony Ryall will have to answer personally to families damaged by this vaccine.
It will be on his head. And no doubt, in the absence of public information, thousands will line up for the shots, unwitting unknowing of what will happen to their future health.

“Even with the H1N1 pandemic flu going around you should still be vaccinated against the seasonal flu. Revere has the details. Read. Enjoy. Be educated…………the risk-benefit calculation for vaccine side-effects and flu is so markedly in favor of the vaccine that I made the decision to get vaccinated and that’s what I’d advise others, too. How confident am I? I’m confident it is the most rational thing to do given what we know.”
http://scienceblogs.com/effectmeasure/2009/09/seasonal_flu_why_i_got_vaccina.php

Regards
Gary

Merck scientist, Dr Maurice Hilleman, discloses that Merck vaccines, like the Sabin live polio vaccine, inadvertently contained live, undetected cancer and HIV viruses that were introduced from the monkeys that they were using to develop the vaccines. It’s unfortunate for all those affected, but “it was good science at the time.”

So that’s what they introduced into the global population then, what are they introducing into the human population now?

Do not bypass the natural barrier of your skin in hopes that science can protect you from nature. Rather, trust nature to nurture and support you in your dance with all life everywhere.

Wouldn’t you really rather live in a world where everything and everyone interacted in a way that mutually supported and nurtured all life everywhere?

THEN LIVE LIKE THAT IS SO!

[h/t Tony Mirvino]

ALERT – Merck Dr. ADMITS Cancer & Other Viruses Found In Vaccines- 9 min

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GvsXrVkjyz4&feature=related

Get some fucking friends, troll – before you look back on your life with some deep deep regrets

NHS Trust suspends cervical cancer vaccinations after girl, 14, dies within hours of jab

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1216714/Schoolgirl-14-dies-given-cervical-cancer-jab.html#ixzz0SZkMpw95

So, Gary, the Troll, do you have any kids? Girls maybe? Still think your vaccines are safe??!!

Check this positive news: Holland really starts to see things a bit clearer (only after ordering a mere 34 million doses!!):
http://www.dutchnews.nl/news/archives/2009/09/chief_virologist_under_fire_ov.php
Of course this is just normal practice: all universities are openly sponsored by the big Pharma now, since governments allow for this (this is called cooperocraty).
Just now it is becoming more clear that more people do not trust this game any longer.

Washington state lifts mercury-preservative limits for swine-flu vaccine. http://www.sott.net/articles/show/194029-Washington-State-Lifts-Limit-on-Mercury-Preservative-in-Swine-Flu-Shots

“Selecky said the law limiting the mercury preservative will be suspended for six months and applies only to the swine-flu vaccines.

Once common in vaccines, thimerosal has been largely phased out in most wealthy nations. Children’s vaccines in the United States are almost exclusively mercury-free, single-dose injections.

However, numerous studies have found no link between thimerosal and disorders in children.

Early results with the new vaccine against swine flu, technically known as H1N1, show it quickly induces a strong immune response, and most people over the age of 10 will require only a single dose.

The rate of side effects also appears to be low. Out of nearly 44,000 people inoculated in China, 14 “adverse events” have been reported, all very mild, said Dr. Marie-Paule Kieny, director of the World Health Organization’s (WHO) Initiative for Vaccine Research. ”

http://www.sott.net/articles/show/194029-Washington-State-Lifts-Limit- on-Mercury-Preservative-in-Swine-Flu-Shots

Regards
Gary

“So, Gary, the Troll, do you have any kids? Girls maybe? Still think your vaccines are safe??!!”

Yes, my daughters are vaccinated and in perfect health thank you.

Regards
Gary

Are they infertile?

Have you checked?

Dear Uncensored Mag, i am not living in Auckland, would it be possible for you to film the meeting and put it up online for us non Aucklanders?

Ever wonder why ‘aka” Troll is so desperate to ensure we all take the shot? He must be a really good sole to be so concerned about all of his fellow man, as are all the other anti-vac bashers out there. They have led everyone to believe that we who choose No are a DANGER to all those who choose Yes. That we actually cause an epidemic to start or spread.
My confusion is this…, if The well protected are fully saved from any disease or virus that comes at them by merely having junk science injected into them and are as they proclaim ’saved/protected’ then surely the only danger the unvaccinated pose is to ourselves and the only people we can infect is oursleves.
This brings me to the conclusion that Troll can’t be afraid that we will start a world wide epidemic that will kill him or is family….(after all he is vaccinated).so he must just post all his baseless commnents because of his genuine concern for our well being.How sweet!
Well Troll is a bigger man than I!
I am only concerned and commenting because I am 1) afraid that I or my family will be forced to be vaccinated against our “free will” which would harm our future health or even kill us.
Based on what Troll may well ask?
Based on the fact that for the last 25 years I(vaccinated as a child) have had a debilitating, systemic,uncurable disease (which is not in any of my family DNA chain) AND I CURED IT COMPLETELY without so much as a single pill or remedy that involved modern scientific medicine or pharmaceuticals HA HA HA.
My ( vaccinated/not by my choice)Grandson has Athsma and ended up in hospital last month.He is now being treated with REAL Homeopathy and is almost fully cured ie,no symptoms anymore. HA HA. and so the list goes on!!!!
Back to topic…, 2)The vaccine’s abviously have another Agenda (nano chips! and for the intiated that is a whole other topic which Troll wouldn’t understand)
3) The vaccinated, who as evidence shown on blogs here show, pose very high risk of gettting swine flu from that vaccine and that those sick people can infect up to 20% of the healthy, unvaccinated people.
So my motives are purely selfish, I don’t want myself friends and family to die.
4) The larger picture- If this all succeeds and as planned.Ie world domination by the rich and powerfull we will all be slaves and their will be nowhere to run and hide.
So Troll can call is all paranoid conspiracy theorists, uneducated and the like.
I chooose to ignore Troll and believe that will elevate this Board to a knew informative level “One where we ignore disinformation for exactly what it is!..and continue to inform those who havn’t yet seen the truth.

Aye.

And I also agree with this following statement that I found on a web page somewhere:

“In a way, the science of manipulation has become far more advanced than other sciences.

As for me, I feel that real science can be life supporting, and along with other fine human endeavors, science can help us survive in the long term.

It’s clear to me that deception and manipulation are fatal for the deceiver as well as the deceived.

As time goes on, we are learning that we will only survive as a species if we live more truthfully.”

Hey Jeffy. In the meantime why not wish this 11 minute excellent video about it here: http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=15459 and be sure to visit http://www.theflucase.com
and http://www.fluscam.com/HOME.html

Here are a few more interesting videos – I think that safety concerns are becoming “viral” in the social media, no pun intended.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dLDZmXj9TPM&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f1FVd1kMjhs&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V7mcB6Sm3DI&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uDDS3PPLRM0&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m0WSkEcPyiY&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U5DrgADUMz8&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=01QtSTpkaVs [UK: safety questioned]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Osxpo64cqJs&feature=related [RFK on vax-autism coverup]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PbSpPs05YAc&feature=related [song: say no to the vaccine]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yAbWbAe3Y04&feature=related [pandemic or propaganda]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7s_AOoY6BOA&feature=fvw [swine flu hype]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bilx-mb1OtM&feature=related [the great Cong. Ron Paul]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ASibLqwVbsk&feature=related [1976 swine flu propaganda]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wtwLVYGdd3U&feature=related [swine flu conspiracy]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S_9I1L_P370 [cbs documentary on 1976 swine flu]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W57pnVhEhjU [swine flu media hype]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8IhrIbIts-8 [alex jones - swine flu special report]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MnY_m5Ryk-c [swine flu hoax - propaganda]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UziCY8H3ECE [swine flu and major media brainwashing]

Wow hats off to I am you..your time is noted by those that care xx

I have a message for ragy..the big sell is usually the results that show a ’strong immune response’. We ( and I’m thinking ragy is in on this) know that this is pure representational data. A ‘taste’ of what something ‘can do’. Immune response is a continuosly studied area. I remember when C reactive Protein emmerged and it became the ‘gold standard’ for conditions like lupus. And then we found out about ANA and then we realised that could be infuluenced by all kinds of things and now we have AnRnA. And now we ‘know’ that CRP is a measure of inflammation so is related to all kinds of conditions?
Hmmm..Yet Baxter, GlaxoSmithKline, and my particular favourite CSL are able to somehow supersede all scientific and intelligent thought in their amazing ability to give us a vaccine for an otherwise unknown pathogen to the human immune response??????

“NHS Trust suspends cervical cancer vaccinations after girl, 14, dies within hours of jab”

They have no idea what caused the girl’s death yet. Read the article and you will see this “‘No link can be made between the death and the vaccine until all the facts are known and a post-mortem takes place.”

Correlation is not causation..

“onebeingone” has cured an incurable disease and Athsma!

Wow! The Nobel prize for medicine is on it’s way to him as I write this.

What a deluded fool he is.

Gary is a troll trolling is what he does, a debunker working in some way for big pharma, there is little doubt with the evidence available today that vaccines are ineffective and dangerous some immediately dangerous and all long term dangerous. In some cases the vaccinated become carriers of the disease and certainly ensure the perpetuation and survival of the disease. Dr Mercola is a doctor who came from the mainstream medical and was able to think outside the box, highly respected and has a very informative website now. Ignore the troll Gary, follow Dr Mercola.
http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2009/09/26/Flu-Vaccine-Exposed.aspx
http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2009/09/24/VERY-Important-Vaccine-Question.aspx
http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2009/09/24/IV-Vitamin-C-Used-to-Recover-Terminal-Swine-Flu-Case.aspx
http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2009/09/19/The-Truth-about-the-Flu-Shot.aspx
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http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2009/09/19/Inconvenient-Truths-About-Gardasil-and-Swine-Flu-Vaccines.aspx
There are dozens more

Agreed Chris. Or gary the Troll could also go to another Doctor’s site at http://www.tetrahedron.org or http://www.fluscam.com
Dr leonard Horowitz is a Harvard Univ. Master of Public Health and Tufts Univ. Doctor of Medical Dentistry.

Wow!
How easy was that-To ferret out a banal and trite comeback from the well paid debunking Troll.Read like a confession buddy. Do I get ten points?
–Will you say that to my face tomorrow at the MEETING.

On a more intelligent note I look forward to meeting some of you tomorrow in Grey Lynn.(Look for the T shirt). I hope we all go home with some anti-vacc strategy’s and pray that we never need to use them.

FDA Approved H1N1 Vaccines Contain Ingredients Known to Cause Cancer and Death
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Dawn Crim
Vactruth
October 2, 2009

Most health experts will agree that vaccine reactions can occur. It is estimated that roughly 1 in every million people will react to their vaccine. Even then, health officials maintain that it is usually a simple case of inflammation at the injection site and/or a slight fever. On a rare occasion, anaphylactic shock may occur due to the patient reacting to a substance that they are allergic to. However, the FDA recently approved four H1N1 vaccines that not only contain very questionable ingredients, but some of those ingredients have even been proven to cause cancer and death.

The FDA has awarded H1N1 contracts to the following companies: MedImmune, LLC (1), CSL Limited (2), Novartis Vaccines and Diagnostics Limited (3), and Sanofi Pasteur (4). Their package inserts became public knowledge in recent weeks.

All four vaccines list hypersensitivity to eggs as a contraindication (1) (2) (3) (4). This means that it is not advisable to administer any one of these products to a person suffering from a severe egg allergy or egg protein allergy. This contraindication may affect as many as 15 million people (based on a population of 300 million). (5). While parents are instructed not to feed their infant eggs until 1 year of age, these same infants will be exposed to eggs by way of their H1N1 vaccine and/or seasonal flu vaccine beginning at 6 months of age.
CSL’s vaccine (2) also lists hypersensitivity to chicken protein as a contraindication. “While most people who are sensitive to eggs can eat chicken, there is one protein that is present in both eggs and poultry — alpha-livetin, or chicken serum albumin — that can cause allergies to both foods.” (6)It is unknown at this time how many people are allergic to the aforementioned proteins. Going into anaphylactic shock is a very real possibly if one were to receive an ingredient that he/she is allergic to.

Neomycin and polymyxin are listed as contraindications for CSL’s (2) and Novartis’ (3) vaccines. “Neomycin may cause damage to the kidneys and/or nerves. Kidney function and drug levels in the blood may be monitored with blood tests during treatment. Tell your doctor if you experience decreased urination, hearing loss, ringing in the ears, feeling of fullness in the ears, dizziness, numbness, skin tingling, muscle twitching, or seizures which may be signs of kidney or nerve damage.” (7) According to Teva Pharmaceuticals, the effects of neomycin may not be evident until long after the medication has been discontinued. Just exactly how long is unclear at this time. (8) Polymyxin has its own set of possible adverse reactions. “Neurotoxic reactions may be manifested by irritability, weakness, drowsiness, ataxia, perioral paresthesia, numbness of the extremities, and blurring of vision. These are usually associated with high serum levels found in patients with impaired renal function and/or nephrotoxicity.” (9)

Gentamicin (10) is listed as a contraindication for MedImmune’s vaccine (1). It too, has its own list of possible side effects, which may include nephrotoxicity and/or neurotoxicity.

1. What: Put street posters up listing the ingredients and what they do. Wear anti-vaccine badges.
2. Why: Some are calculated to disorder/unreason compared to order/reason – they are called various things: psycopaths, etc, and distort our civilisation very very very heavily.
3. Way: Internet 3.0 was declared to be the Giant Global Graph by Tim Berners Lee’s blog 2 years ago as it is technically a graph and becoming more so via Augumented Reality phones etc everyday – if you can see the context of a law and can check it’s list of science links and wiki input new links on the street should someone try and ‘legally’ inject you at some check-point then you have removed false law and achieved agreement and thus valid law.

Wiki-g3 (Giant Global Graph) is a flowchart.

Not just wear badges, sell them for $1 and/or give them away – if everyone wears them and hands them out all day long very quickly the agreement will be quarantine the vaccines and their advocates untill whatever is going on with their lethal stupidity is sorted out – again the badges should have not just http://www.theflucase.com on them but Google Giant Global Graph as well, or perhaps http://thewhyisgod.livejournal.com, etc.

Some really good ideas Garth.

Its time to “stand up and be counted by our convictions”.
If the Elitist barstards can show off their badges ‘We can too”.

I takes courage to openly disclose that when we wake up everday our reality is somewhat different to the average person. We put ourselves at risk in many ways but I would rather appear a fool than die like all the other fools (with no clue what hit them). A badge is a simple non intrusive way to arouse the curiosity of people.

How about

H1N1FREE (It could be the smile on the good ol smiley face).

and lets get some ideas together about where to put posters for most effectiveness>

In addition to the viral and bacterial RNA or DNA that is part of the vaccines, here are the fillers:
aluminum hydroxide
aluminum phosphate
ammonium sulfate
amphotericin B
animal tissues: pig blood, horse blood, rabbit brain,
dog kidney, monkey kidney,
chick embryo, chicken egg, duck egg
calf (bovine) serum
betapropiolactone
fetal bovine serum
formaldehyde
formalin
gelatin
glycerol
human diploid cells (originating from human aborted fetal tissue)
hydrolized gelatin
monosodium glutamate (MSG)
neomycin
neomycin sulfate
phenol red indicator
phenoxyethanol (antifreeze)
potassium diphosphate
potassium monophosphate
polymyxin B
polysorbate 20
polysorbate 80
porcine (pig) pancreatic hydrolysate of casein
residual MRC5 proteins
sorbitol
sucrose
thimerosal (mercury)
tri(n)butylphosphate,
VERO cells, a continuous line of monkey kidney cells
washed sheep red blood cells
AND……..
These additives are given without public knowledge or consent. Merck, the monster pharmaceutical giant in the US produces the vast majority of vaccine supplies & are protected from prosecution by Federal Statutes imposed under the former Bush administration.
Analysis of vaccine fillers:
1) ALUMINUM (two variants) – directly linked to Alzheimer’s Disease
2) AMMONIUM SULFATE – an inorganic chemical compound used a fertilizer and “protein purifier”; known to cause kidney & liver damage, gastrointestinal disfunctions
3) AMPHOTERICIN B – an “antifungal disinfectant”, damages the urinary tract, bowels, heart functions
4) RE-CYCLED ANIMAL TISSUE (multiple) – the building blocks of Mad Cow Disease
5) FORMALDEHYDE – used as “a preservative & disinfectant”, known to cause cancer, chronic bronchitis, eye irritation when exposed to the body’s immune system
6) MSG – now known to cause cancer in humans, also linked to obesity
7) PHENOL – a highly toxic disinfectant dye, attributed to liver, kidney, heart & respiratory damage
PHENOXYETHANOL (ANTIFREEZE) – proven to have extreme neurotoxic side effects
9) THIMEROSAL (MERCURY) – a neurotoxin linked to psychological, neurological & immunological problems. Nervous system damage, kidney disease, birth defects, dental problems, mood swings, mental changes, hallucinations, memory loss, nerve damage and inability to concentrate can occur.
Symptoms also include tremors, loss of dermal sensitivity, slurred speech and, in rare cases, even death and paralysis. This additive alone was the catalyst for another recent Class Action Lawsuit organized by mothers of children born with Autism & the many related behavioral disorders associated with it.
Autism is now occurring at levels never seen before in history, 1 in 67. The average used to be 1 in 20,000.
james Sanger 2009-09-21 17:27:59
Have you read this ?? ….
“Following influenza vaccination, false positive results in serology tests using the ELISA method to
detect antibodies against HIV1, Hepatitis C and especially HTLV1 have been observed. The Western
Blot technique disproves the results. The transient false positive reactions could be due to the IgM
response by the vaccine. ”
Does this mean that after the vaccine oyu’d test positive for HIV ?
Sounds very fishy….
HIV positive for profit, according to Dr. Rima Lai
Shakti 2009-09-21 17:45:39
Dr. Rima Laibow, in one of her videos on the swine flu vaccine on Youtube (can’t remember which one it was)says that after the vaccination with the so called Swine Flu vaccine, vaccinated people will test positive for HIV, and, that a new law came out that all pregnant women must be tested for HIV. This then will lead to a false positive diagnosis, and then to medication with expensive and toxic Aids medications, a source of never ending income to Big Pharma!
. james Sanger 2009-09-21 17:58:45
…gotta love it !!!
1 in 10 will experience dizziness vomiting…
1 in 1000 will have fits leading to coma and death
and 1 in 10000 will have brain swelling and paralysis….
So basically the cure is worse than the flu !
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Very rare (these may occur with up to 1 in 10,000 doses of the vaccine):
• Temporary inflammation of the brain and nerves causing pain, weakness and paralysis that may
spread across the body.
• Narrowing or blockage of blood vessels with kidney problems
Rare (these may occur with up to 1 in 1,000 doses of the vaccine):
• Allergic reactions leading to a dangerous decrease of blood pressure, which, if untreated, may
lead to collapse, coma and death
• Fits
• Severe stabbing or throbbing pain along one or more nerves
• Low blood platelet count which can result in bleeding or bruising
Uncommon (these may occur with up to 1 in 100 doses of the vaccine):
• Generalised skin reactions including urticaria (hives)
If any of these side effects occur, please tell your doctor or pharmacist immediately.
The side effects listed below have occurred with Pandemrix in clinical studies:
Very common (these may occur with more than 1 in 10 doses of the vaccine):
• Headache
• Tiredness
• Pain, redness, swelling or a hard lump at the injection site
• Fever
• Aching muscles, joint pain
Common (these may occur with up to 1 in 10 doses of the vaccine):
• Warmth, itching or bruising at the injection site
• Increased sweating, shivering, flu-like symptoms
• Swollen glands in the neck, armpit or groin
Uncommon (these may occur with up to 1 in 100 doses of the vaccine):
• Tingling or numbness of the hands or feet
• Sleepiness
• Dizziness
• Diarrhoea, vomiting, stomach pain, feeling sick
http://www.theflucase.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=651%3Awho-admits-that-qswine-fluq-has-not-mutated-into-a-more-virulent-strain-will-this-be-a-vaccine-generated-pandemic&catid=41%3Ahighlighted-news&Itemid=105&lang=en
THIS IS A WAR: ABOUT THE 3 SHOT SCENARIO
Mia Nony 2009-09-21 22:40:07
I am searching right now for more info about the purported 3 step shot plan. I may be wrong but to date my understanding is this:
SHOT 1: Shuts off the immune system to keep it from reacting in any way to Shot 2
SHOT 2: Injection of a mix of multiple diseases, including but not limited to African green monkey diseased cancer cells, (similar to the AIDS vaccine used in the 3rd world), plus a host of other deadly diseases, enough to kill by VIRTUE OF sheer numbers, plus bio-engineered avian, swine, & 1918 combo, plus antifreeze, formaldehyde, aspartame, MSG, plus dozens of other immune destroying toxic adjuvants, such as auto immune compromising rapid degenerative disease from antibodies created from squalene (M559?), central nervous system damage (minimata) caused by mercury, & other so called “immune boosters” and/or, – as Big Pharma prefers to call them – “preservatives”
SHOT 3: Turns the immune system back on. At this point the body now goes into full scale defence, in reaction to assault on all fronts by so many disease, toxic adjuvants & preservatives & poisons, & the body then relapses into what is known as a “cytokine storm”, essentially destroying itself in the process due to its necessity of fighting on all fronts at once. The body (you & me) soon collapses & dies trying to fight off so many forms of disease & toxins at once, since this is a situation which would never occur in nature.
I heard mention on this site of using snake bite antidote kits but I do not know how they would address so many kinds of attacks at once.
Dr Bayblock has superb details for how to stock up to survive this – if you are forced to take it.

http://www.informedchoice.info/cocktail.html
http://www.theflucase.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=595%3Adeadly-nano-particles-in-untested-qswine-fluq-jab-william-engdahl-reports&catid=41%3Ahighlighted-news&Itemid=105&lang=en
Nano Particles used in Untested H1N1 Swine Flu Vaccines
http://www.vaclib.org/news05/birdflu06.htm
How One Wicked Nation Can Kill Billions Around the World – - With One Lie!
January 24, 2006 Lorraine Day, M.D.
The Bird Flu “Pandemic” HOAX (and other vaccine hoaxes)
http://www.goodnewsaboutgod.com/studies/birdflu.htm
http://www.theflucase.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=732%3Aswiss-military-ordered-to-vaccinate-the-swiss-population&catid=1%3Alatest-news&Itemid=64&lang=en – Sterilisation/Depopulation.
http://www.rense.com/general87/stupid.htm
It’s The Vaccines Stupid!
Part I – Evidence Linking Autism
Rise In Children To Vaccinations
F. William Engdahl
9-13-9
The study also found marked behavior changes and development differences in those monkeys given the vaccines versus those who were not. “Compared with unexposed animals, significant neuro-developmental deficits were evident for exposed animals in survival reflexes, tests of color discrimination and reversal, and learning sets,” the study`s authors reported. “Differences in behaviors were observed between exposed and unexposed animals and within the exposed group before and after MMR vaccination.”
The most shocking of all is the recent and now common medical practice, reinforced by an aggressive pharmaceutical industry, of giving multiple vaccines, often virtually within hours of birth, to infants despite the fact that no study including all of the vaccine series commonly given to children in the US and UK, about 30 in all, has been conducted until now. The practice of newborn multiple vaccinations has become widespread in Germany and other EU countries over the past decade. Significantly there have surfaced reports of dramatically increased instances of autism in newborn and infants in various German hospitals over the past decade, precisely the period multiple vaccinations of newborn and infants has become routine.
US Government coverup
Tragically, the US Government agency theoretically entrusted with guarding public health, the Food and Drug Administration (FDA), as with the case of health dangers of GMO foods, as well with the dramatic evidence of the link between autism and adjuvants used in typical vaccines, is accepting the argument of big and politically powerful Pharmaceutical companies.
The Food and Drug Administration considers vaccines safe but, just as with GMO, they have done no studies into the effects of multiple vaccinations as given in the common childhood series which started in the 1990s in the USA and spread to the UK and now across the EU.
According to Robert F. Kennedy, Jr., son of the late Attorney General and an attorney active in campaigning to expose mercury (Thimerosal) and other toxicity dangers in vaccines, recently stated, “as autism is a behavioral affliction rather than a precisely defined biological injury — epidemiological studies are critical to establishing its causation. But the greatest source of epidemiological data is the Vaccine Safety Datalink (VSD) — the government maintained medical records of hundreds of thousands of vaccinated children — which Health and Human Services Department has gone to great lengths to keep out of the hands of plaintiffs’ attorneys and independent scientists. The raw data collected in the VSD would undoubtedly provide the epidemiological evidence needed to understand the relationship between vaccines and autism. The absence of such studies makes it easy for judges to say to plaintiffs they have not met their burden of proving causation.”
TWIG Post Aug 31: Flowcharts are (legal) agreement: – covers Uncensored leaflet links such as a million times too much squalene and HIV in it, cancer serum etc.
+ Info has come in on what it will do: http://www.theflucase.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=784%3Athread-on-flutrackers-argues-no-pandemic-on-us-navy-ships&catid=1%3Alatest-news&Itemid=64&lang=en
http://www.theflucase.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=776%3Aunconfirmed-swine-flu-outbreak-on-us-navy-ship-after-crew-vaccinated-reports-stephen-lendman&catid=1%3Alatest-news&Itemid=64&lang=en
http://www.theflucase.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=732%3Aswiss-military-ordered-to-vaccinate-the-swiss-population&catid=1%3Alatest-news&Itemid=64&lang=en – Sterilisation/Depopulation.
http://www.whale.to/vaccine/west_edda.html A Glimpse into the Scary World of Vaccine Adjuvants

Before you start wandering about with your little badges on advertising to the world that you are a total moron, you may like to look here:

http://whatstheharm.net/vaccinedenial.html

Only after the Troll starts reading the links above! I have caught him out before whereby it is obvious he hasn’t read our links. And caught him out quoting his website URL which doesn’t go to a story backing up his specific postings claim and worse, even use quotation marks and then supplying a link and when i have clicked on the link the quote wasn’t even contained in the URL linked story!

So, in short, the Troll doesn’t even do a good job and trying to prove his side of the story with his complete, as proven above, B.S.!!!

Hi i missed the meeting yesturday and only found out about this today. How do i make any difference to the policy makers etc.

What advise can you give the masses of people who dont want to be forced vaxed? Can another meeting be held on the same topic again. How do we unify and get out voices heard. thanks

http://www.theflucase.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=765%3Ahow-about-making-3-october-an-international-solidarity-day-of-action-against-the-wine-flu-scam-dont-have-the-wine-flu-jab&catid=1%3Alatest-news&Itemid=64&lang=en
*“Do you REALLY want swine flu injected into your bloodstream to “not get” the swine flu? Duh! A no-brainer! FACT: Novartis and GlaxoSmithKline swine flu ‘vaccines’ contain the actual live swine-flu virus. Both vaccines also contain a squalene-based adjuvant named MF59. When squalene is combined with live attenuated virus, the vaccine becomes many times more lethal. Squalene in vaccines injected into U.S. soldiers caused the debilitating illness called ‘Gulf War Syndrome.’”:
dave c 2009-09-30 17:57:10
In Response to Freeone:
Anyone who wants to pass out my flyer -a very strongly worded one; eg, skin breaking STAB, not a harmless ‘(left) jab’ – can hopefully straighten out the words below and print out and make copies – especially for mass distribution at Colleges and Universities! That’s where we ended the Viet Nam war (I’ll never forget Jane Fonda speaking at SDSU before she got “Monarched”) – whereat I finally realized not to believe the mass mainLINE media! Here’s text: (It all fits on ONE side of one page!) [PS: Also, go to "downloads" on http://www.theflucase.com and (in USA) printout and hand the 3 pages to any judge!]
HOW TO SURVIVE The Lab-Created FLU ‘PANDEMIC’
The ultra-rich criminal Ruling-Elite, i.e., the ‘Rothschilds’ (owners of the Federal Reserve Central Bank [“Federal”?? … not!], their multi-trillion-dollar ‘legalized’ counterfeiting SCAM), and their paid agents within the World Health Organization, the U.N., the U.S. ‘shadow’ government, and at the helm of the mainline U.S. corporate media are planning to KILL YOU with POISONED vaccines and to enslave the survivors using foreign troops on U.S. soil! See http://www.theflucase.com for OVERWHELMING EVIDENCE! FACT: “There is no evidence that any influenza vaccine thus far developed is effective in preventing or mitigating any attack of influenza. The producers of these vaccines know that they are worthless, but they go on selling them, anyway.”— Dr. J. Anthony Morris (former Chief Vaccine Control Officer at the FDA) FACT: The new ‘swine flu’ vaccines contain live swine-flu virus! There is no conspiracy “theory” about it. Google ‘attenuated vaccines’! The live swine-flu virus contained within the vaccine can infect the human body and thereby become communicable to others. Vaccinated people, who are now infected with the swine flu virus from the vaccine, spread the swine flu to other people around them! (J.D. Rockefeller’s vaccine was the real cause of the 1918 “Spanish Flu” pandemic, and Rockefeller made millions!) Do you REALLY want swine flu injected into your bloodstream to “not get” the swine flu? Duh! A no-brainer! FACT: Novartis and GlaxoSmithKline swine flu ‘vaccines’ contain the actual live swine-flu virus. Both vaccines also contain a squalene-based adjuvant named MF59. When squalene is combined with live attenuated virus, the vaccine becomes many times more lethal. Squalene in vaccines injected into U.S. soldiers caused the debilitating illness called ‘Gulf War Syndrome.’ FACT: Thimerosal, a preservative for vaccines, is 50% toxic mercury. Mercury is known to cause autism (1 in 67 children now have autism from vaccines!) and other brain-related injuries. The vaccine also contains formaldehyde, a cancer-causing chemical used for embalming dead bodies. FACT: AIDS-laced smallpox vaccine was injected into over a million Africans (1970) to spread AIDS. AIDS-laced Hepatitis B vaccine, free to male homosexuals (1978), was used to spread AIDS within the U.S. http://www.onlinejournal.com/artman/publish/article_129.shtml Pharmaceutical corporations continue to reap billions selling AZT and other patented toxic formulations to ‘treat’ the millions of AIDS victims intentionally sickened for profit and depopulation. GO TO: http://www.theflucase.com for continuing updates. Learn what YOU can do to stop this international crime syndicate! These poisoned-vaccine pushers are planning to make $Billions while providing the pretext for the international bankers who own the U.N. to replace our Constitutional Government with martial law under foreign troops! GO TO: http://www.Dprogram.net and http://www.whatreallyhappened.com for the TRUTHS you need but are SUPPRESSED by TV “News” and other corporate mainline newsfakers. If you do not have internet access, subscribe to or purchase American Free Press and the Idaho Observer — REAL newspapers! Do your homework if you want to survive the criminally-insane Trillionaire Banksters’ diabolical poison-vaccine scam. LEARN or perish! Give copies of this to friends and family to save their lives. Give copies to police, military, nurses, and healthcare workers so that they will KNOW the TRUTH and thus REFUSE to FORCIBLY stab us with the Rockefeller/Bauer (alias ‘Rothschild’) poisoned ‘vaccines’!
P.S. There is currently a criminal investigation of Baxter Corp. for deliberately poisoning flu vaccines with a 63% fatal lab-created bird flu virus. Thank God one lab in the Czech Republic discovered this, or the poisoned vaccines would have already killed millions of us worldwide! Despite Baxter getting caught red-handed lacing vaccines with deadly lab-created Bird Flu, the Bankster-owned U.N. still gave them a contract to produce more (poisoned) Swine Flu ‘vaccine’! http://www.torontosun.com/news/canada/2009/02/27/8560781.html For astonishing proof that ALL vaccinations are a $CAM: http://www.vaccinationdebate.com For daily updates go to: http://www.theflucase.com
(Note: If you do get ‘vaccine-raped’ go immediately to: http://rense.com/general87/vaccin.htm for treatment protocols.)
Posters, flyers, brochures and more
JeffersonJr 2009-09-30 22:32:56
FYI, I am gathering links to these materials here:
http://swineflu.baywords.com/
Don’t submit to vaccination until you have obtained satisfactory answers to every question below.
1. What is your full name and address? (You wouldn’t accept an untested medical treatment from an anonymous stranger, would you?)
2. Have you received this shot yourself?
3. The currently circulating H1N1 strain is no more dangerous than the normal seasonal flu. Will this shot protect me against any deadlier future mutations of the flu–strains that presently do not exist?
4. If the shot itself makes me ill, who will be responsible for any resulting medical bills?
5. What are the alternatives to vaccination as a preventative measure?
Please add your own questions below.
FOR YOU
SOME IDEAS 2009-09-30 18:07:38
Wearing a badge gets people to ask you Questions Make a badge go to Google get a picture of a vaccine save it to your computer take it to publisher or other application and insert text box and add some text saying SAY NO TO THE SWINE FLU JAB You could make A4 Posters the same way choose banners on your Publisher and make a banner Saying soon you will expected to take a swine flu vaccine but before you do go to http://www.theflucase.com to learn why you shouldn`t have it.
Put posters in your car say No to the pig jab People will ask just ask them do they have access to a computer if yes tell them to go to youtube watch videos on the h5n1 vaccine if they haven’t spend 5 minutes just saying its very dangerous its a mock-up test and you will be their guinea pig tell them what it contains.
There is a poster on This website put it in your window at home give a few out and tell your neighbours to look at info then put the poster in their window too.
POSTERS IN PHONE BOXES CASH POINTS ANYWHERE.
— On Sun, 10/4/09, Legal Team wrote:
Date: Sunday, October 4, 2009, 3:35 AM
“STAR OF DAVID
A lot of people are talking about wearing a yellow Star of David to signify their opposition to the FEMA camps, the forced vaccinations containing poisons like mercury.
Wearing the star is also to show support for Israel and to remember the holocaust, that we will never let it happen again. ”
Initial Response:
Maybe it should have a Blue boarderline around the edges of badge? – make it more a symbol of life/reason somehow than it was with the Rothschilds Red use of it.

Ethics Tech Admin/Giant Global Graph:
http://thewhyisgod.livejournal.com TWIG Post Sept 7: Reason: When the right why is found things cheer up. Flowcharts are the language of production:, TWIG Post Sept 1st: Prosecution flow charts:, TWIG Post: Netometry and survival: – has a link to a flowchart of the internet for 09 from Tokyo Information Architechs: Intention creates Knowledge: http://www.flickr.com/photos/formforce/3409362834/sizes/o/. TWIG Post: Swineflu: Insist on rights: If it isnt wiki-Giant Global Graph agreed it isnt law: September 28th, 23:10.
Note: ‘Flowcharts’, ‘Layers’, ‘Network’ (A45)/‘Strategy’ (A47)/‘Accounts’ (A54)/‘Narrative’ (A62), etc:
http://www.theflucase.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=814%3Ajon-rappoport-interview-of-ex-vaccine-researcher&catid=1%3Alatest-news&Itemid=64&lang=en#josc2641
Jon Rappoport interview of ex vaccine researcher
Posted 7/22/2008 – http://www.whale.to/v/rapp.html
Jon Rappoport Q1: You were once certain that vaccines were the hallmark of good medicine.
Dr. Mark Randall A1: Yes I was. I helped develop a few vaccines. I won’t say which ones.
Q2: Why not?
A2: I want to preserve my privacy.
Q3: So you think you could have problems if you came out into the open?
A3: I believe I could lose my pension.
Q4: On what grounds?
A4: The grounds don’t matter. These people have ways of causing you problems, when you were once part of the Club. I know one or two people who were put under surveillance, who were harassed.
Q5: Harassed by whom?
A5: The FBI.
Q6: Really?
A6: Sure. The FBI used other pretexts. And the IRS can come calling too.
Q7: So much for free speech.
A7: I was “part of the inner circle.” If now I began to name names and make specific accusations against researchers, I could be in a world of trouble.
Q8: What is at the bottom of these efforts at harassment?
A8: Vaccines are the last defense of modern medicine. Vaccines are the ultimate justification for the overall “brilliance” of modern medicine.
Q9: Do you believe that people should be allowed to choose whether they should get vaccines?
A9: On a political level, yes. On a scientific level, people need information, so that they can choose well. It’s one thing to say choice is good. But if the atmosphere is full of lies, how can you choose? Also, if the FDA were run by honorable people, these vaccines would not be granted licenses. They would be investigated to within an inch of their lives.
Q10: There are medical historians who state that the overall decline of illnesses was not due to vaccines.
A10: I know. For a long time, I ignored their work.
Q11: Why?
A11: Because I was afraid of what I would find out. I was in the business of developing vaccines. My livelihood depended on continuing that work.
Q12: And then?
A12: I did my own investigation.
Q13: What conclusions did you come to?
A13: The decline of disease is due to improved living conditions.
Q14: What conditions?
A14: Cleaner water. Advanced sewage systems. Nutrition. Fresher food. A decrease in poverty. Germs may be everywhere, but when you are healthy, you don’t contract the diseases as easily.
Q15: What did you feel when you completed your own investigation?
A15: Despair. I realized I was working a sector based on a collection of lies.
Q16: Are some vaccines more dangerous than others?
A16: Yes. The DPT shot, for example. The MMR. But some lots of a vaccine are more dangerous than other lots of the same vaccine. As far as I’m concerned, all vaccines are dangerous.
Q17: Why?
A17: Several reasons. They involve the human immune system in a process that tends to compromise immunity. They can actually cause the disease they are supposed to prevent. They can cause other diseases than the ones they are supposed to prevent.
Q18: Why are we quoted statistics which seem to prove that vaccines have been tremendously successful at wiping out diseases?
A18: Why? To give the illusion that these vaccines are useful. If a vaccine suppresses visible symptoms of a disease like measles, everyone assumes that the vaccine is a success. But, under the surface, the vaccine can harm the immune system itself. And if it causes other diseases ˆ say, meningitis ˆ that fact is masked, because no one believes that the vaccine can do that. The connection is overlooked.
Q19: It is said that the smallpox vaccine wiped out smallpox in England.
A19: Yes. But when you study the available statistics, you get another picture.
Q20: Which is?
A20: There were cities in England where people who were not vaccinated did not get smallpox. There were places where people who were vaccinated experienced smallpox epidemics. And smallpox was already on the decline before the vaccine was introduced.
Q21: So you’re saying that we have been treated to a false history.
A21: Yes. That’s exactly what I’m saying. This is a history that has been cooked up to convince people that vaccines are invariably safe and effective.
Q22: Now, you worked in labs. Where purity was an issue.
A22: The public believes that these labs, these manufacturing facilities are the cleanest places in the world. That is not true. Contamination occurs all the time. You get all sorts of debris introduced into vaccines.
Q23: For example, the SV40 monkey virus slips into the polio vaccine.
A23: Well yes, that happened. But that’s not what I mean. The SV40 got into the polio vaccine because the vaccine was made by using monkey kidneys. But I’m talking about something else. The actual lab conditions. The mistakes. The careless errors. SV40, which was later found in cancer tumors ˆ that was what I would call a structural problem. It was an accepted part of the manufacturing process. If you use monkey kidneys, you open the door to germs which you don’t know are in those kidneys.
Q24: Okay, but let’s ignore that distinction between different types of contaminants for a moment. What contaminants did you find in your many years of work with vaccines?
A24: All right. I’ll give you some of what I came across, and I’ll also give you what colleagues of mine found. Here’s a partial list. In the Rimavex measles vaccine, we found various chicken viruses. In polio vaccine, we found acanthamoeba, which is a so-called “brain-eating” amoeba.
Simian cytomegalovirus in polio vaccine. Simian foamy virus in the rotavirus vaccine. Bird-cancer viruses in the MMR vaccine. Various micro-organisms in the anthrax vaccine. I’ve found potentially dangerous enzyme inhibitors in several vaccines. Duck, dog, and rabbit viruses in the rubella vaccine. Avian leucosis virus in the flu vaccine. Pestivirus in the MMR vaccine.
Q25: Let me get this straight. These are all contaminants which don’t belong in the vaccines.
A25: That’s right. And if you try to calculate what damage these contaminants can cause, well, we don’t really know, because no testing has been done, or very little testing. It’s a game of roulette. You take your chances. Also, most people don’t know that some polio vaccines, adenovirus vaccines, rubella and hep A and measles vaccines have been made with aborted human fetal tissue. I have found what I believed were bacterial fragments and poliovirus in these vaccines from time to time ˆ which may have come from that fetal tissue. When you look for contaminants in vaccines, you can come up with material that IS puzzling. You know it shouldn’t be there, but you don’t know exactly what you’ve got. I have found what I believed was a very small “fragment” of human hair and also human mucus. I have found what can only be called “foreign protein,” which could mean almost anything. It could mean protein from viruses.
Q26: Alarm bells are ringing all over the place.
A26: How do you think I felt? Remember, this material is going into the bloodstream without passing through some of the ordinary immune defenses.
Q27: How were your findings received?
A27: Basically, it was, don’t worry, this can’t be helped. In making vaccines, you use various animals’ tissue, and that’s where this kind of contamination enters in. Of course, I’m not even mentioning the standard chemicals like formaldehyde, mercury, and aluminum which are purposely put into vaccines.
Q28: This information is pretty staggering.
A28: Yes. And I’m just mentioning some of the biological contaminants. Who knows how many others there are? Others we don’t find because we don’t think to look for them. If tissue from, say, a bird is used to make a vaccine, how many possible germs can be in that tissue? We have no idea. We have no idea what they might be, or what effects they could have on humans.
Q29: And beyond the purity issue?
A29: You are dealing with the basic faulty premise about vaccines. That they intricately stimulate the immune system to create the conditions for immunity from disease. That is the bad premise. It doesn’t work that way. A vaccine is supposed to “create” antibodies which, indirectly, offer protection against disease. However, the immune system is much larger and more involved than antibodies and their related “killer cells.”
Q30: The immune system is?
A30: The entire body, really. Plus the mind. It’s all immune system, you might say. That is why you can have, in the middle of an epidemic, those individuals who remain healthy.
Q31: So the level of general health is important.
A31: More than important. Vital.
Q32: How are vaccine statistics falsely presented?
A32: There are many ways. For example, suppose that 25 people who have received the hepatitis B vaccine come down with hepatitis. Well, hep B is a liver disease. But you can call liver disease many things. You can change the diagnosis. Then, you’ve concealed the root cause of the problem.
Q33: And that happens?
A33: All the time. It HAS to happen, if the doctors automatically assume that people who get vaccines DO NOT come down with the diseases they are now supposed to be protected from. And that is exactly what doctors assume. You see, it’s circular reasoning. It’s a closed system. It admits no fault. No possible fault. If a person who gets a vaccine against hepatitis gets hepatitis, or gets some other disease, the automatic assumption is, this had nothing to do with the vaccine.
Q34: In your years working in the vaccine establishment, how many doctors did you encounter who admitted that vaccines were a problem?
A34: None. There were a few who privately questioned what they were doing. But they would never go public, even within their companies.
Q35: What was the turning point for you?
A35: I had a friend whose baby died after a DPT shot.
Q36: Did you investigate?
A36: Yes, informally. I found that this baby was completely healthy before the vaccination. There was no reason for his death, except the vaccine. That started my doubts. Of course, I wanted to believe that the baby had gotten a bad shot from a bad lot. But as I looked into this further, I found that was not the case in this instance. I was being drawn into a spiral of doubt that increased over time. I continued to investigate. I found that, contrary to what I thought, vaccines are not tested in a scientific way.
Q37: What do you mean?
A37: For example, no long-term studies are done on any vaccines. Long-term follow-up is not done in any careful way. Why? Because, again, the assumption is made that vaccines do not cause problems. So why should anyone check? On top of that, a vaccine reaction is defined so that all bad reactions are said to occur very soon after the shot is given. But that does not make sense.
Q38: Why doesn’t it make sense?
A38: Because the vaccine obviously acts in the body for a long period of time after it is given. A reaction can be gradual. Deterioration can be gradual. Neurological problems can develop over time. They do in various conditions, even according to a conventional analysis. So why couldn’t that be the case with vaccines? If chemical poisoning can occur gradually, why couldn’t that be the case with a vaccine which contains mercury?
Q39: And that is what you found?
A39: Yes. You are dealing with correlations, most of the time. Correlations are not perfect. But if you get 500 parents whose children have suffered neurological damage during a one-year period after having a vaccine, this should be sufficient to spark off an intense investigation.
Q40: Has it been enough?
A40: No. Never. This tells you something right away.
Q41: Which is?
A41: The people doing the investigation are not really interested in looking at the facts. They assume that the vaccines are safe. So, when they do investigate, they invariably come up with exonerations of the vaccines. They say, “This vaccine is safe.” But what do they base those judgments on? They base them on definitions and ideas which automatically rule out a condemnation of the vaccine.
Q42: There are numerous cases where a vaccine campaign has failed. Where people have come down with the disease against which they were vaccinated.
A42: Yes, there are many such instances. And there the evidence is simply ignored. It’s discounted. The experts say, if they say anything at all, that this is just an isolated situation, but overall the vaccine has been shown to be safe. But if you add up all the vaccine campaigns where damage and disease have occurred, you realize that these are NOT isolated situations.
Q43: Did you ever discuss what we are talking about here with colleagues, when you were still working in the vaccine establishment?
A43: Yes I did.
Q44: What happened?
A44: Several times I was told to keep quiet. It was made clear that I should go back to work and forget my misgivings. On a few occasions, I encountered fear. Colleagues tried to avoid me. They felt they could be labeled with “guilt by association”. All in all, though, I behaved myself. I made sure I didn’t create problems for myself.
Q45: If vaccines actually do harm, why are they given?
A45: First of all, there is no “if”. They do harm. It becomes a more difficult question to decide whether they do harm in those people who seem to show no harm. Then you are dealing with the kind of research which should be done, but isn’t. Researchers should be probing to discover a kind of map, or flow chart, which shows exactly what vaccines do in the body from the moment they enter. This research has not been done. As to why they are given, we could sit here for two days and discuss all the reasons. As you’ve said many times, at different layers of the system people have their motives. Money, fear of losing a job, the desire to win brownie points, prestige, awards, promotion, misguided idealism, unthinking habit, and so on. But, at the highest levels of the medical cartel, vaccines are a top priority because they cause a weakening of the immune system. I know that may be hard to accept, but it’s true. The medical cartel, at the highest level, is not out to help people, it is out to harm them, to weaken them. To kill them. At one point in my career, I had a long conversation with a man who occupied a high government position in an African nation. He told me that he was well aware of this. He told me that WHO is a front for these depopulation interests. There is an underground, shall we say, in Africa, made up of various officials who are earnestly trying to change the lot of the poor. This network of people knows what is going on. They know that vaccines have been used, and are being used, to destroy their countries, to make them ripe for takeover by globalist powers I have had the opportunity to speak with several of these people from this network.
Q46: Is Thabo Mbeki, the president of South Africa, aware of the situation?
A46: I would say he is partially aware. Perhaps he is not utterly convinced, but he is on the way to realizing the whole truth. He already knows that HIV is a hoax. He knows that the AIDS drugs are poisons which destroy the immune system. He also knows that if he speaks out, in any way, about the vaccine issue, he will be branded a lunatic. He has enough trouble after his stand on the AIDS issue.
Q47: This network you speak of.
A47: It has accumulated a huge amount of information about vaccines. The question is, how is a successful strategy going to be mounted? For these people, that is a difficult issue.
Q48: And in the industrialized nations?
A48: The medical cartel has a stranglehold, but it is diminishing. Mainly because people have the freedom to question medicines. However, if the choice issue [the right to take or reject any medicine] does not gather steam, these coming mandates about vaccines against biowarefare germs are going to win out. This is an important time.
Q49: The furor over the hepatits B vaccine seems one good avenue.
A49: I think so, yes. To say that babies must have the vaccine – and then in the next breath, admitting that a person gets hep B from sexual contacts and shared needles – is a ridiculous juxtaposition. Medical authorities try to cover themselves by saying that 20,000 or so children in the US get hep B every year from “unknown causes,” and that’s why every baby must have the vaccine. I dispute that 20,000 figure and the so-called studies that back it up.
Q50: Andrew Wakefield, the British MD who uncovered the link between the MMR vaccine and autism, has just been fired from his job in a London hospital.
A50: Yes. Wakefield performed a great service. His correlations between the vaccine and autism are stunning. Perhaps you know that Tony Blair’s wife is involved with alternative health. There is the possibility that their child has not been given the MMR. Blair recently side-stepped the question in press interviews, and made it seem that he was simply objecting to invasive questioning of his “personal and family life.” In any event, I believe his wife has been muzzled. I think, if given the chance, she would at least say she is sympathetic to all the families who have come forward and stated that their children were severely damaged by the MMR.
Q51: British reporters should try to get through to her.
A51: They have been trying. But I think she has made a deal with her husband to keep quiet, no matter what. She could do a great deal of good if she breaks her promise. I have been told she is under pressure, and not just from her husband. At the level she occupies, MI6 and British health authorities get into the act. It is thought of as a matter of national security.
Q52: Well, it is national security, once you understand the medical cartel.
A52: It is global security. The cartel operates in every nation. It zealously guards the sanctity of vaccines. Questioning these vaccines is on the same level as a Vatican bishop questioning the sanctity of the sacrament of the Eucharist in the Catholic Church.
Q53: I know that a Hollywood celebrity stating publicly that he will not take a vaccine is committing career suicide.
A53: Hollywood is linked very powerfully to the medical cartel. There are several reasons, but one of them is simply that an actor who is famous can draw a huge amount of publicity if he says ANYTHING. In 1992, I was present at your demonstration against the FDA in downtown Los Angeles. One or two actors spoke against the FDA. Since that time, you would be hard pressed to find an actor who has spoken out in any way against the medical cartel.
Q54: Within the National Institutes of Health, what is the mood, what is the basic frame of mind?
A54: People are competing for research monies. The last thing they think about is challenging the status quo. They are already in an intramural war for that money. They don’t need more trouble. This is a very insulated system. It depends on the idea that, by and large, modern medicine is very successful on every frontier. To admit systemic problems in any area is to cast doubt on the whole enterprise. You might therefore think that NIH is the last place one should think about holding demonstrations. But just the reverse is true. If five thousand people showed up there demanding an accounting of the actual benefits of that research system, demanding to know what real health benefits have been conferred on the public from the billions of wasted dollars funneled to that facility, something might start. A spark might go off. You might get, with further demonstrations, all sorts of fall-out. Researchers ˆ a few ˆ might start leaking information.
Q55: A good idea.
A55: People in suits standing as close to the buildings as the police will allow. People in business suits, in jogging suits, mothers and babies. Well-off people. Poor people. All sorts of people.
Q56: What about the combined destructive power of a number of vaccines given to babies these days?
A56: It is a travesty and a crime. There are no real studies of any depth which have been done on that. Again, the assumption is made that vaccines are safe, and therefore any number of vaccines given together are safe as well. But the truth is, vaccines are not safe. Therefore the potential damage increases when you give many of them in a short time period.
Q57: Then we have the fall flu season.
A57: Yes. As if only in the Autumn do these germs float in to the US from Asia. The public swallows that premise. If it happens in April, it is a bad cold. If it happens in October, it is the flu.
Q58: Do you regret having worked all those years in the vaccine field?
A58: Yes. But after this interview, I’ll regret it a little less. And I work in other ways. I give out information to certain people, when I think they will use it well.
Q59: What is one thing you want the public to understand?
A59: That the burden of proof in establishing the safety and efficacy of vaccines is on the people who manufacture and license them for public use. Just that. The burden of proof is not on you or me. And for proof you need well-designed long-term studies. You need extensive follow-up. You need to interview mothers and pay attention to what mothers say about their babies and what happens to them after vaccination. You need all these things. The things that are not there.
Q60: The things that are not there.
A60: Yes.
Q61: To avoid any confusion, I’d like you to review, once more, the disease problems that vaccines can cause. Which diseases, how that happens.
A61: We are basically talking about two potential harmful outcomes. One, the person gets the disease from the vaccine. He gets the disease which the vaccine is supposed to protect him from. Because, some version of the disease is in the vaccine to begin with. Or two, he doesn’t get THAT disease, but at some later time, maybe right away, maybe not, he develops another condition which is caused by the vaccine. That condition could be autism, what’s called autism, or it could be some other disease like meningitis. He could become mentally disabled.
Q62: Is there any way to compare the relative frequency of these different outcomes?
A62: No. Because the follow-up is poor. We can only guess. If you ask, out of a population of a hundred thousand children who get a measles vaccine, how many get the measles, and how many develop other problems from the vaccine, there is a no reliable answer. That is what I’m saying. Vaccines are superstitions. And with superstitions, you don’t get facts you can use. You only get stories, most of which are designed to enforce the superstition. But, from many vaccine campaigns, we can piece together a narrative that does reveal some very disturbing things. People have been harmed. The harm is real, and it can be deep and it can mean death. The harm is NOT limited to a few cases, as we have been led to believe. In the US, there are groups of mothers who are testifying about autism and childhood vaccines. They are coming forward and standing up at meetings. They are essentially trying to fill in the gap that has been created by the researchers and doctors who turn their backs on the whole thing.
Q63: Let me ask you this. If you took a child in, say, Boston and you raised that child with good nutritious food and he exercised every day and he was loved by his parents, and he didn’t get the measles vaccine, what would be his health status compared with the average child in Boston who eats poorly and watches five hours of TV a day and gets the measles vaccine?
A63: Of course there are many factors involved, but I would bet on the better health status for the first child. If he gets measles, if he gets it when he is nine, the chances are it will be much lighter than the measles the second child might get. I would bet on the first child every time.
Q64: How long did you work with vaccines?
A64: A long time. Longer than ten years.
Q65: Looking back now, can you recall any good reason to say that vaccines are successful?
A65: No, I can’t. If I had a child now, the last thing I would allow is vaccination. I would move out of the state if I had to. I would change the family name. I would disappear. With my family. I’m not saying it would come to that. There are ways to sidestep the system with grace, if you know how to act. There are exemptions you can declare, in every state, based on religious and/or philosophic views. But if push came to shove, I would go on the move.
Q66: And yet there are children everywhere who do get vaccines and appear to be healthy.
A66: The operative word is “appear”. What about all the children who can’t focus on their studies? What about the children who have tantrums from time to time? What about the children who are not quite in possession of all their mental faculties? I know there are many causes for these things, but vaccines are one cause. I would not take the chance. I see no reason to take the chance. And frankly, I see no reason to allow the government to have the last word. Government medicine is, from my experience, often a contradiction in terms. You get one or the other, but not both.
Q67: So we come to the level playing field.
A67: Yes. Allow those who want the vaccines to take them. Allow the dissidents to decline to take them. But, as I said earlier, there is no level playing field if the field is strewn with lies. And when babies are involved, you have parents making all the decisions. Those parents need a heavy dose of truth. What about the child I spoke of who died from the DPT shot? What information did his parents act on? I can tell you it was heavily weighted. It was not real information.
Q68: Medical PR people, in concert with the press, scare the hell out of parents with dire scenarios about what will happen if their kids don’t get shots.
A68: They make it seem a crime to refuse the vaccine. They equate it with bad parenting. You fight that with better information. It is always a challenge to buck the authorities. And only you can decide whether to do it. It is every person’s responsibility to make up his mind. The medical cartel likes that bet. It is betting that the fear will win.
____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ ________
Dr. Mark Randall is the pseudonym of a vaccine researcher who worked for many years in the labs of major pharmaceutical houses and the US government’s National Institutes of Health.
Mark retired during the last decade. He says he was “disgusted with what he discovered about vaccines.”
Page 10 ˆ Jon Rappoport interview of ex vaccine researcher
As you know, since the beginning of nomorefakenews, I have been launching an attack against non-scientific and dangerous assertions about the safety and efficacy of vaccines.
Mark has been one of my sources.
He is a little reluctant to speak out, even under the cover of anonymity, but with the current push to make vaccines mandatory – with penalties like quarantine lurking in the wings – he has decided to break his silence.
He lives comfortably in retirement, but like many of my long-time sources, he has developed a conscience about his former work. Mark is well aware of the scope of the medical cartel and its goals of depopulation, mind control, and general debilitation of populations.
http://www.whale. to/v/rapp. html
– Josh Beaulieu
Creative Director
redfive marketing inc.

yay for the Internet! The collective medical wisdom of the human race and the millions of people working in the ‘mainstream’ health services in countries around the globe can be effectively disimissed in favour of the latest posting on the websites of Doctor’s Mercola, Blaylock, Monteith, Day, and Horowitz. All of whom are in no way suffering from paranoid personality disorders or trying to scare fellow paranoids into buying their alternative therapies. Absolutely not.

Check out the above Drs credentials Alex, they are impeccable!

“NHS Trust suspends cervical cancer vaccinations after girl, 14, dies within hours of jab”

Natalie Morton died of a tumour in her chest. It was an understandable reaction to suspend vaccinations until it could be verified that a contaminated batch wasn’t the underlying cause of her death, but that turned out not to be the case.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1217280/Cervical-cancer-jab-Natalie-Morton-died-chest-tumour-vaccine.html

“Pathologist Alexander Kolar told the inquest that Natalie’s chest was “heavily infiltrated” by a tumour that had extended to the left lung.

The growth had compressed Natalie’s aorta and pulmonary artery, shutting off the blood supply to her entire body and causing her to collapse.

He said: “It was so severe that death could have arrived at any time.”

Given the number of girls being vaccinated, it’s a statistical certainty that some of them will come down or be afflicted by other health issues in the same timeframe that shots are given – correlation, however, does not mean causation.

The NZ Herald reported that Dr Jessamine of Medsafe said that no deaths had been attributed to Gardasil as defence against the story of the girl who died suddenly in the UK after receiving a cervical cancer vaccination, albeit, a different brand.

What Dr Jessamine said is totally incorrect. On both the governmental CDC’s website as well as here:
http://www.judicialwatch.org/news/2008/jun/judicial-watch-uncovers-new -fda-records-detailing-ten-new-deaths-140-serious-adverse-e

article headline reads: “Judicial Watch Uncovers New FDA Records Detailing Ten New Deaths & 140 “Serious” Adverse Events Related to Gardasil” one can see that Dr Jessamine of NZ’s Medsafe is misleading the NZ public as is the NZ Herald for reporting it.

(Now i know that this is not Swine Flu related as per this subject’s heading, however, i am merely replying to VDub’s post above so that readers can make their own (better informed) choices.

“Dr Jessamine of Medsafe said that no deaths had been attributed to Gardasil … What Dr Jessamine said is totally incorrect. ”

Surely she was referring to NZ cases? Have there been any deaths attributed to Gardasil in this country?

“Dr Jessamine of NZ’s Medsafe is misleading the NZ public…”

From the NZHerald, quoting Dr Jessamine…

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/new-zealand/news/article.cfm?l_id=71&objectid=10600366

“…very rare serious adverse reactions are always a possibility with any vaccination…”

Is that misleading? And the Herald reports that…

“Serious adverse reactions are rare; one is anaphylaxis, which happens about three times every million doses.”

Again, is that misleading? Or about in line with the numbers you’re referencing? Three times every million doses — if millions of American girls are getting vaccinated, then statistically, there are going to be a few that have adverse reactions, as well as the usual swelling, fainting and other more minor reactions that occur when people get shots of any kind.

I AM YOU — at the very least, would you be willing to concede that Natalie Morton did not die because of her vaccination shot?

Dr Jessamine is a guy by the way, not a “she”. And no, his statement said there had been no deaths from Gardasil, he did not qualify it by saying “in NZ” but rather made the statement general and therefore all-country-encompassing, that is, absolute.

VDub, at the very least, once you have read my articles attached, would you be wiling to conceded that Gardasil kills, paralyzes and has dozens of other shocking side effects and contains so many poinsons, the least of which is rat poison (!) and even countries like Spain saw the light and returned their 75,000 doses due to Gardasil’s shocking safety record!

Some very strong articles re Gardasil and the HPV Vaccine as promised for VDub:

http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?read=127553

http://www.rense.com/general78/pharma.htm

http://www.rense.com/general78/hpv.htm

http://www.rense.com/general76/hsiv.htm

http://www.rense.com/general75/insane.htm

http://www.rense.com/general77/jadbs.htm

http://www.rense.com/general75/daugh.htm

http://www.rense.com/general75/SXSE.HTM

http://www.rense.com/general77/cerv.htm

http://www.prwatch.org/node/6263 with specific ref to New Zealand

Another Gardasil story re Paralysis being the result:
http://www.aolhealth.com/health/womens-health/news/article/_a/could-hpv-vaccine-lead-to-paralysis/20080708112209990001?icid=200100397×1205403891x1200256875

And another damning story about Gardasil!
http://www.healthfreedom.net/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=475&Itemid

And another!!!

http://www.renewamerica.us/columns/janak/080723

And some more evidence just in case you weren’t convinced by now!!

http://www.naturalnews.com/023792.html

http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2008/08/02/hpv-vaccine-blamed-for-teen-s-paralysis.aspx?source=nl

http://www.newswithviews.com/Howenstine/james170.htm

http://www.naturalnews.com/024774.html

HPV Vaccine Contains Rat Oison Chemical!!!
http://www.naturalnews.com/024872.html

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/life_and_style/health/article5337885.ece

http://www.medications.com/se/gardasil

Well, if anyone bothers to look at all the links above and if you have a daughter and are considering getting her to have the HPV Vaccine then I urge you to read all of the above information before making your decision!

Thank you.

“THE cervical cancer vaccine may be riskier and more deadly than the cancer it is designed to prevent, a leading expert who developed the drug has warned.

She also claimed the jab would do nothing to reduce the rates of cervical cancer in the UK.

Speaking exclusively to the Sunday Express, Dr Diane Harper, who was involved in the clinical trials of the controversial drug Cervarix, said the jab was being “over-marketed” and parents should be properly warned about the potential side effects.”

“Authorities in the UK should be on the alert because its sister vaccine, Gardasil, used in America, has already been associated with 32 deaths, she said.

Her comments follow the death of 14-year-old Natalie Morton, who collapsed an hour after receiving the jab at school last week.

It is highly unusual for a researcher to publicly criticise a vaccine which they helped get approved.

However, Dr Harper, who has written many of the published medical papers about the jab, is so concerned she decided to speak out.”

Enuff said VDub! ;-(

http://thewhyisgod.livejournal.com: The 5th Dimension:
TWIG Post: October 5th, 22:21
The Why Is God:
Government and Science is what I call the 5th Dimension: Cause. It is said Time is the 4th – but Time has 2 Dimensions, so Science, which is basically i3: International Information Infrastructure (though that name is used for Internet 1.0: Linked Desktops), is the 5th Dimension.
It has long been noted that Cause isn’t random – at our level it only appears to be. The minute you get into ‘i3’/5th Dimension you realize it is unbelievably (‘miraculously’) coherent.
You will also realize that which loves death and destruction has control of it.
If you are capable of intelligence (heavy distortions exist at this level so it’s not a given that you are) you will realize that what THAT means is you’d better use ‘i3’/5th Dimension within an inch of your life if you expect to survive what is the equivalent of an insane AI (Artificial Intelligence).
Happily for you a little info-structure goes a very long way. It has instant and comparatively almost endless power. Just number and perhaps entitle your paragraphs and sections and sites and you will immediately see how much more power you will have AND realize at last that if you are going to deal with a Govt you, per the law of comparitive magnitudes, will have to be a Govt. Your fate IS sealed if you do not. History shows that. Right now you have a small window of opportunity to create a flow chart: Rense.com is Reports ie Department 3 Perception, David Icky is Books ie Department 5 Understanding, per the 27 Department (3×3x3) Org Board/Chart, etc. Department 1 Recognition is Flowcharts – Tim Berners Lee’s Giant Global Graph (g3), etc. Very soon now all opportunity for reason probably will be snuffed out when the WHO switches off the internet and declares Martial Law/biocide, possibly this year. So please, do all you can on your 5th Dimension and wear badges supporting that so everyone agrees it’s the top priority program of survival at this time. You have a lot of info but you need info-structure it all into a narrative/flowchart of importances as fast as you can, now, to make for all the decades you should have but didnt. Only this will help those in support of reason in the face of necrasphere’s gleeful unreason:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1217973/Czech-leader-holding-door-open-UK-sink-Lisbon.html
There will be an EU and UN etc – but it will be run by the people via g3, not by dictators as those lead to pointless biocide.
http://diananapolis.wordpress.com/2009/10/04/video-evidence-that-the-planet-is-in-a-simulated-reality-millenium-take-out-of-the-planet-the-singularity-mind-uploading-computer-brain-interface/
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703628304574452951795911162.html?mod=googlenews_wsj

Garth, you make about as much sense as IAmYou, Lorraine, Lombeer and Robbo, You are among like minds here at Uncensored.
Keep up the good work, and don’t forget to wear your aluminium hat.

I AM YOU – instead of link-bombing threads every time someone asks you something, how about responding to a direct question with a direct answer?

You restate the fact that Natalie Morton collapsed within hours of receiving the vaccination, suggesting a causal link.

Do you still believe that the vaccination shot was the cause of her death?

I am not in a position to suggest that she died of the jab or that she didn’t die of the jab. What i can say is this, “THE cervical cancer vaccine may be riskier and more deadly than the cancer it is designed to prevent, a leading expert who developed the drug has warned.

She also claimed the jab would do nothing to reduce the rates of cervical cancer in the UK.

Speaking exclusively to the Sunday Express, Dr Diane Harper, who was involved in the clinical trials of the controversial drug Cervarix, said the jab was being “over-marketed” and parents should be properly warned about the potential side effects.”

“Authorities in the UK should be on the alert because its sister vaccine, Gardasil, used in America, has already been associated with 32 deaths, she said.

Her comments follow the death of 14-year-old Natalie Morton, who collapsed an hour after receiving the jab at school last week.

It is highly unusual for a researcher to publicly criticise a vaccine which they helped get approved.

However, Dr Harper, who has written many of the published medical papers about the jab, is so concerned she decided to speak out.”

I can also say that our Gardasil contains many toxins including rat poison. I can also say Spain sent back 75000 doses of the vaccine as they found it to be very unsafe.
I can also say the FDA and CDC and other organisations admit there have many deaths attributed to NZ’s Gardasil.

Teen girl suffers permanent brain damage after cervical cancer vaccine

http://www.naturalnews.com/027188_NaturalNews_cancer_cervical_cancer.html

(NaturalNews) As the cervical cancer vaccine continues to maim or kill even more teenage girls across the UK, 18-year-old Stacey Jones is the latest victim to suffer severe harm. Previously in a state of apparent health, Stacey began to suffer severe seizures and brain inflammation within days after receiving the Cervarix vaccine injection. The swelling of her brain was so severe that it cause permanent brain damage, and today Stacey Jones is an “empty shell” of a girl.

Her mother isn’t fooled by Big Pharma. “I really feel she has been used as a guinea pig,” she said in a DailyMail news article (source below). “I don’t think there is enough evidence that the vaccination programme is safe – this all happened days after Stacey was given the vaccine, and we don’t have any other explanation for what triggered her brain injury.”

Just last week, 14-year-old Natalie Morton died within hours after receiving the same vaccine injection. Medical authorities insisted Natalie suddenly died of a previously undiagnosed tumor in her chest, but NaturalNews was the first to suggest fraud in the pathology report, pointing out that Natalie’s real cause of death had to be covered up to protect the lucrative vaccine industry.

Vaccines = the new holocaust
As the deaths mount, vaccines are becoming the new chemical holocaust of our time. Children and teens are lined up to be injected with chemicals made by some of the very same companies that once conducted medical experiments on Jewish concentration camp prisoners during the Nazi era (http://www.naturalnews.com/019189.html).

Did you know, for example, that one of the chemotherapy drugs still used in cancer centers today was originally developed under the chemical weapons program of Nazi Germany? (http://www.naturalnews.com/News_000...)

Vaccines don’t kill as many people as the Nazi gas chambers, but the number of people being targeted by the vaccination holocaust is many times larger than the number imprisoned in Nazi Germany.

The corporations behind all this, of course, are much the same. So are the people. A 10-year Chairman of Bayer, for example, was a convicted Nazi war criminal. As explained on another NaturalNews article:

“Dr. Fritz ter Meer, a director of IG Farben who was directly involved in developing the nerve gas, Zyklon-B, which killed millions of Jews, was sentenced to seven years in prison but was released after four years through the intervention of Rockefeller and J.J. McCloy, then U.S. High Commissioner for Germany. An unrepentant Fritz ter Meer, guilty of genocide and crimes against humanity, returned to work in Bayer where he served as Chairman for more than 10 years, until 1961.
(http://www.naturalnews.com/024534_h...)

Whether we’re talking about Nazi war crimes or mass vaccination campaigns, the intent is the same: power and control over people. If you’re a new reader on NaturalNews and not yet familiar with the historical involvement of the pharmaceutical industry in Nazi Germany, read the above article link to get up to speed.

They have no idea what caused the girl’s death yet. Read the article and you will see this “‘No link can be made between the death and the vaccine until all the facts are known and a post-mortem takes place.”

Surely you have got the post mortem results by now Admin!
Where are they? What did she die of?

I know what you will say when it is shown that the vaccine didn’t cause her death….the coroner is part of the conspiracy.
You dead shit conspiracy nut job losers.

read this Troll..”Just last week, 14-year-old Natalie Morton died within hours after receiving the same vaccine injection. Medical authorities insisted Natalie suddenly died of a previously undiagnosed tumor in her chest, but NaturalNews was the first to suggest fraud in the pathology report, pointing out that Natalie’s real cause of death had to be covered up to protect the lucrative vaccine industry.”

This entire vaccine industry ‘ethic’ is based on ‘risk/benefit’ calculations – but it’s a blatent lie to justify the use of many severely toxic ingredients when better risk/benefit ratios by magnitudes (10×10x10 etc) are statistically proven in ‘alternative’ health.
When I ask you to post a context number to your links giving what significance you think they have so as to speed up search and communications etc there are factors involved: what area does it apply to? Is it big – such as ‘Biocide’, or small, such as ‘lawnmower design’, etc, on a scale of 0.00 to 10.00. Trolls will fill in a context/flowchart/map utterly oppersite to truth seekers, thus troll severity/source credibility ID numbers like is done in the intelligence communities world wide can be wiki-ed out as well.

Just an initial guess at what xyz number codes for reports could be wikied out between us: the ‘Be, Do, Haves.’:
Ethics: -10.00 to +10.00: The Scientology Tone Scale: Beingnesses from Destructive to Constructive?
Tech: -10.00 to +10.00: Dewey Decimal system?
Admin: -10.00 to +10.00: The Scientology Dynamics ie areas of interest/concern to you/your management?

” NaturalNews was the first to suggest fraud in the pathology report,”

Just as I predicted……. if you are not for the conspiracy you are part of the conspiracy.

Garth, time to start taking the medication before the men in white coats come for you again.

Correlation is not causation.

Xyz salvation:
1. The problem this planet is facing is it doesn’t care because it can’t care because no one is accurately classifying/rating the reports from their creation till their connected end use.
This means there is no focus/point in this society i.e. we wont make it to the singularity – we’ll die.
2. This means what I’m going on about: connectivity codes/index systems linking answers to problems, is about the most vital component of any front page, including Google’s.
What name should this vital component have?
Tim Berners Lee calls it the Giant Global Graph (g3); though it may move on from there to the WebOS (internet 4.0: Web Operating System).
So maybe we could file all such wiki systems under: ‘TWIG’ (The Why Is God)?
3. Law is agreement. Any such wiki system creates sane law/civilizations/communities – for example: http://educate-yourself.org/cn/congressleadersopposebillsonline06oct09.shtml.
How about: http://www.wiseupjournal.com//?p=837 – ‘in one generation all will be chipped.’ – how would you rate that as a reported concern? In this case the report is independent of it’s author – it has such implications that what power level he has as a reporter doesn’t matter – as ideas go it now has a life of it’s own in anyones opinion.
4. You could encode Power/Effectiveness levels for each of the Ethic-Tech-Admin Giant-Global-Graph/linked-data-coordinate connectivity-code sectors: maybe: A++ to F–; or whatever popular systems people end up wiki-ing that out to/using. They’d easily be translated by simply lining up their start and finish points in a vertical list so their spectrums translate/convert as languages with/to each other.
Once you’ve got this gig going it’s not at all serious: it’s a vitaspheric revival: fun. Wherever it’s absent it’s as serious as all hell: necrospheric – like the World ‘Health’ Organization.
5. Clearly we have to suppliment the existing failed (biocidic) systems. I suggest http://www.uncensored.co.nz and it’s community, http://www.theflucase.com and it’s community, http://www.stopthevac.com and it’s community, http://www.rense.com and it’s community, David Icky, http://www.nexusmagazine.com and so many others and their communities should set up this wiki linked initially ‘version 1.0’ system between them as a major quadrant on their front pages, and let it develop popular index languages from there so as to save the biosphere (bio means life and can be defined as any life from rocks to Gods).
6. Once again I’ve forgotten something I was going to say – which means more life lost to us.
Anyway – some more links:
http://www.technologyreview.com/biomedicine/23589/
Big Blue’s DNA-Reading Chips
http://www.wired.co.uk/wired-magazine/archive/2009/05/features/the-hidden-censors-of-the-internet.aspx, etc.

As to the troll – scientology (study of truth ie knowing what we know) is another valid field if it is free for innovation, such as in the scientology freezone. It has some useful ideas. You obviously define it as the Church Of Scientology (CO$), where it is under CIA control, and worthless.
Due to 40 years of mercury my memory isnt 100% – I have the typical 140IQ of a high functioning autistic, and contribute what intelligence I can – I dont feel I am part of any problem, I feel I am trying like many here to be part of the answers, whatever they are.
Your style is attack attack attack but never give good reasons, only bad ones, if any, generally. Destruction, not construction, is your ethic/game.
How would you upgrade connectivity systems?

Actually, like any free area, the scientology freezone has more interesting ideas all the time. The CO$ loses whatever interesting ideas it had all the time, etc.

Any system/tech by which you can see relative truths i.e. a better signal to noise ratio gives life a better chance of survival to the next level thus THAT is/should be a major wikiable concern for all.
Have you and others any ideas on this and where do you think they should be hub linked to and networked given the importance and the fact that unless people are challenged to and can easily get involved nothing will happen in defense of their tax dollars etc survivals?
As inevitably as eternal starlight they’ll end up feeding the perfect storm ie their demise without such systems that they can get involved with/contribute to/learn from, and the easier the better, etc. Notice how they are elitist/exclusive and you cant easily get involved with them? So there is an opportunity there for alternative media channels to run a ‘sciosphere’ game or whatever you want to call it for the general public to have a forum for developing their systems of survival especially since Central and maybe even Local ‘Governments’ pushing DU ammo, BtGE, Squalene Injections, etc will have to be supplemented or maybe even replaced by an ‘alternative’ Government if life is to continue here and they will need to agree/figure one out now.

Maybe we can improve on these systems – we all use somekind of system and might be able to help each other with them as a basic forum space – I think we owe ourselves that much chance/community expression. Put it to a vote? Last time it was in the freezone it got hundreds of inputs and was by far the most popular subject I know of there, as it’s real to everyone the foundations of our civilization cannot be a sand/anarchy and need to be a relation/rock strong enough not to fall down like it is now doing for the apparent lack of such system popular forums etc that encode purpose without which a group isn’t really technically a group, etc.

…apparent lack of such system/popular forums etc that encode purpose without which a group isn’t really technically a group, etc. Site design/wiki recognition systems/‘the front door’ etc: If there are such system(s) what and where is it/they listed and why/how can we be using/developing it more etc basic questions/reports/progress news etc on that area/concern. Less disconnectivity generally at this time. The org that is relatively more an org wins: look in the phone book under Govt Departments: lots of them – what have we got? Guess which will win? I say be the Government, not it’s opposition. A vital front in the battle has been ignored and now should be made up to an equivalent or preferably better standard: the team’s flow charts. You have more than enough info to wiki up a narrative/index as a basic reason/treason info/orientation for future reports to fit into filling in Ethics-Tech-Admin gaps/upgrades from this point in ‘HiStory’ on, etc. I think it’s about time – we have Augmented Reality Cell Phones etc now. I’d have done it decades ago but apparently they didn’t want that – I’m sure it’s not hard – especially compared to biocide in place of the singularity/a ‘bridge’ to higher states, what life is all about, etc.
http://vactruth.com/2009/07/21/dr-andrew-moulden-interview-what-you-were-never-told-about-vaccines/, http://www.theflucase.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=879%3Acallers-into-radio-shows-show-resistnace-in-us-to-qswine-fluq-jab-growing&catid=1%3Alatest-news&Itemid=64&lang=en, http://www.naturalnews.com/027196_cancer_cervical_cancer_cancer_vaccine.html
http://www.spawnpoint.com/news/17411/Project_Natal – a connectivity system.
http://www.jayweidner.com/ShiningSecrets1.html
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/cifamerica/2009/oct/07/iran-nuclear-weapons-wmd-enrichment – Israel is the problem. http://www.rense.com/general87/snake.htm – last 3 paragraphs, etc.
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/4f30f2aa-b345-11de-ac13-00144feab49a,Authorised=false.html?_i_location=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ft.com%2Fcms%2Fs%2F0%2F4f30f2aa-b345-11de-ac13-00144feab49a.html&_i_referer=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.rense.com%2F EU to elect it’s President and ignore Czech President. http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/132647/Czechs-fast-track-Lisbon-challenge
http://www.rense.com/general87/howlong.htm – South seems to be Ethics (living with the land), North seems to be Tech, the East and West edges seem to be Admin, for each of the 3 supercontinents: America (note President Obama is from Hawaii, etc), Africa/EU (note the islands on the West: David Icky on the Isle of Man? = Spirit, Ireland = Mind/Connectivity/Computers, Scotland = Body/technologies, Iceland = Product/biospheric sustainability; and on the East: the old civilizations of the Gulf States etc), and NZ/Australia/Indonesia/China/India/Siberia (note the Hymalayers, the Phillipeans and Japan, etc) – same sort of geoculture thing. Youre going to need every bit of positive civilization you can wiki up to fight off being mindless DU ammo BtGE biocide pawns/conscripts of the criminal culture you’ve been pushed into.

Garth, you should be on the staff at Uncensored with an intellect like yours.

URGENT ATTENTION FOR ACTIVISTS

JUST CREATED NOW PLEASE INPUT IS NEEDED.

PLEASE JOIN NZ SOCIAL NETWORK AGAINST THE MANDATORY SWINE VACCINE

http://www.swinevaxkillsnz.ning.com

We plan to get 1 million Kiwi’s in 2 months! Before this is released to the NZ public!! Please join and add links.

PLEASE NOTE ALL PRO VAXXERS WILL BE BANNED!!!!!!

Maybe a Flag can also be designed – not just anti vac badges and posters – sort of like a declaration of independance, with an embassy etc. As to geoculture – that was just an initial guess – if of use as a psychology overview it will wiki out to something per square inch someday.

A flag? No, better still will be to have you all microchipped so you can be easily identified. Then you can be excluded from public places thereby protecting the rest of us from the filthy diseases that you carry.

Troll will be the minority that will be excluded from public places because he IS vaccinated! See here:

Vaccine revolt! Swine flu vaccine support crumbles as flimsy rationale for H1N1 shots becomes apparent

(NaturalNews) Public support for the swine flu vaccine is evaporating by the day as the rationale for the vaccine appears increasingly ludicrous to anyone paying attention. Moms, nurses, day care workers and members of the general public are increasingly realizing that Big Pharma’s rationale for swine flu vaccination just doesn’t add up.

Recent polls conducted by the mainstream media indicate that more than fifty percent of moms are refusing to expose their children to the swine flu vaccine, and nurses and health practitioners across the US and UK are going vocal with their opposition to the vaccine.

Legal action against the FDA’s approval of the swine flu vaccine is already underway (http://www.naturalnews.com/027205_v…), and public protests are gaining momentum in raising awareness about the primary objections to the swine flu vaccine. Intelligent, informed people everywhere are saying NO to this vaccine!

rest of article here:
http://www.naturalnews.com/027222_swine_flu_flu_vaccine_swine_flu_vaccine.html

IAmYou, Please explain how being vaccinated makes me a risk to others. (This will be good – I predict an explanation showing his total ignorance of how vaccination works. He he he)

The Troll is a “risk” to society because if the Swine Flu Vaccine doesn’t end up giving him the actual Swine Flu iteself, then he will die a long and slow drawn out death due to several chronic degenerative diseases but the Troll needn’t worry about the pain in the final few weeks as his mental faculties will be even worse than they are today due to the aluminium and the mercury poisoning etc so he’ll also have full-blown Alzheimer’s too – he won’t even remember a thing let alone the pain from the last minute! Of course not only is the Troll a risk to himself but he is also indirectly a risk to the rest of us healthy natural living non-vaccinators as we will be full of health, still enjoying working and contributing to society by paying our taxes etc propping up invalid morons like the Troll in a govt subsidised (taxpayer funded) resthome/hospital. That is, of course, if he isn’t locked up in some mental asylum well before then, shackled to his mental hospital bed!

Yes, as I predicted….IAMYOU knows nothing about vaccination and has proved it by his previous post.

IAMYOU IS A DUMB ASS

I had my flu shot today. Well, my anti flu shot. Protected me and my patients from death for another year. Whew.

I wonder if you are one of those dumb asses who do not get the flu shot each year. Yes. Dumb Ass. Big D, big A. You may be allergic to the vaccine, you may have had Guillain Barre, in which case I will cut you some slack. But if you don’t have those conditions and you work in health care and you don’t get a vaccine for one of the following reasons, you are a dumb ass.

1. The vaccine gives me the flu. Dumb ass. It is a killed vaccine. IT CAN NOT GIVE YOU THE INFLUENZA. It is impossible to get flu from the influenza vaccine.

2. I never get the flu, so I don’t need the vaccine. Irresponsible dumb ass. I never had a car accident, but I wear my seat belt. And you probably don’t use a condom either. So far you have been lucky, and you are a potential winner of a Darwin Award.

3. Only old people get the flu. Selfish dumb ass. Influenza can infect anyone, and one of the groups who die of influenza are the very young. Often those most likely to die from influenza are those least able, due to age or underlying diseases, to respond to the vaccine. You can help prevent your old, sickly Grandmother or your newborn daughter from getting influenza by getting the vaccine, so you do not get flu and pass it one to her.

4. I can prevent influenza or treat it by taking echinacea, vitamin C or airborne. Gullible dumb ass cubed then squared. None of these concoctions has any efficacy what so ever against influenza. They neither prevent nor treat influenza.

5. Flu isn’t all that bad a disease. Underestimating dumb ass. Part of the problem with the term flu is that it is used both as a generic term for damn near any viral illness with a fever and is also used for a severe viral pneumonia. Medical people are just as inaccurate about using the term as the general public. The influenza virus kills 30,000 people and leads to hospitalization of 200,000 in the US each year. Influenza is a nasty lung illness. And what is stomach ‘flu’? No such thing.

6. I am not at risk for flu. Denying dumb ass. If your breathe, you are risk for influenza. Here are the groups of people who should not get the flu vaccine (outside of people with severe adverse reactions to the vaccine): children younger than 6 months and “completely healthy adults who have no contact with someone who isn’t [healthy] (Medscape).” And zombies. And former President Clinton, who evidently doesn’t inhale.

7. The vaccine is worse than the disease. Dumb ass AND a wimp. What a combination. Your mother must be proud. Unless you think a sore deltoid for a day is too high a price to pay to prevent two weeks of high fevers, severe muscles aches, and intractable cough.

8. I had the vaccine last year, so I do not need it this year. Uneducated dumb ass. Each year new stains of influenza circulate across the world. Last years vaccine at best provides only partial protection. Every year you need a new shot.

9. The vaccine costs too much. Cheap dumb ass. The vaccine costs less than a funeral, less than the Tamiflu, less than a week in the hospital.

10. The government puts tracking nanobots in the vaccine and well as RFID chips as part of the mark of the beast, and the vaccine doesn’t work since it is part of a big government sponsored conspiracy to line the pockets of big pharma and inject the American sheeple with exotic new infections. Well, that excuse is at least reasonable. Paranoid dumb ass.

So get vaccine. Or be a dumb ass.

I don’t work in healthcare. And i do not have Guillain Barre. (If i did, it would probably have been caused by a vaccine!)
And you’re right, no flu shot and i did not catch the flu this year! And i have a job whereby i am meeting dozens of people each day, coming into contact with lots of people with the germs but my good natural immune system works just fine for me thank you!

Also, you posted many numbered points above accusing me of making those points, many of which i did not!!!! So, do NOT say that i said things that i have not!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ;-(

I shall see the demise of otherwise radical transformation of Big Pharma Co’s in my lifetime! Whereas you probably will not Troll!

List Of Toxic Materials
(Including BSE?) In Vaccines
Toxic Materials Put Into The Body With Vaccines
From Patricia Doyle, PhD
dr_p_doyle@hotmail.com
12-14-2

Hello Jeff – Many vaccines containing live virus, such as the smallpox vaccine, use bovine sera or other animal sera.

Patty

Note – READ the vaccine ingredients list below carefully. Do you want these items injected into
your and your children’s bodies? Among these many toxic and/or contaminated ingredients is the now infamous Thimerosal (MERCURY). Also, casein and gelatin are bovine products. And how about those ‘washed sheep red blood cells’ in DPT…sheep have had ‘mad sheep’ disease (scrapie) for many decades. Do you feel lucky? – Jeff

Polio – DPT contains:

DPT – Diptheria and Tetanus Toxoids and Pertussis Vaccine Adsorbed
SmithKline Beecham Pharmeceuticals 800-366-8900 x5231

Produced using aluminum phosphate, formaldehyde, ammonium sulfate,
washed sheep red blood cells, glycerol, sodium chloride, thimerosal
medium: porcine (PIG) pancreatic hydrolsate of casein.

Here is a more thorough list. Note the anthrax vaccine and its contents, including bovine material. Now wonder the vets got Gulf War Syndrome.

Acel-Immune
DTaP
Diptheria and Tetanus Toxoids Acellular Pertussis Vaccine adsorbed
Lederle Laboratories 800-934-5556

Produced using formaldehyde, thimerosal, aluminum hydroxide, aluminum phosphate, polysorbate 80, gelatin.

Act HIB
Heamophilus Influenzae Type B (HIB) Tetanus Toxoid Conjugate
Connaught Laboratories 800-822-2463

Produced using ammonium sulfate, formalin, sucrose, thimerosal
Medium: semi-synthetic.

Attenuvax
Measles Virus Vaccine Live
Merck & Co, Inc. 800-672-6372

Produced using neomycin, sorbitol, hydrolized gelatin
Medium: chick embryo.

DPT
Diptheria and Tetanus Toxoids and Pertussis Vaccine Adsorbed
SmithKline Beecham Pharmeceuticals 800-366-8900 x5231

Produced using aluminum phosphate, formaldehyde, ammonium sulfate,
washed sheep red blood cells, glycerol, sodium chloride, thimerosal.
Medium: porcine (pig) pancreatic hydrolsate of casein.

Hepatitis B
SmithKline Beecham Pharmaceuticals 800-633-8900 x5231

Produced using aluminum hydroxide, thimerosal.
Medium: yeast (possibly 5% residual).

IPOL
Inactivated Polio Vaccine
Connought Laboratories 1-800-822-2463

Produced using 3 types of polio virus, formaldehyde, phenoxyethanol
(antifreeze), neomycin, streptomycin, polymixin B.
Medium: VERO cells, a continuous line of Monkey kidney cells.

MMR
Measles Mumps Rubella Live Viruse Vaccine
Merck & Co., Inc. 800-934-5556

Produced using sorbitol, neomycin, hydrolized gelatin.
Mediums: M&M – chick embryo.
Rubella – Human diploid cells (originating from human aborted fetal tissue).

Orimune
Poliovirus Vaccine Live Oral Trivalent
Lederle Laboratories 800-934-5556

Produced using 3 types of attenuated polioviruses, streptomycin,
neomycin, calf serum, sorbitol.
Meduim: monkey kidney cell culture

Varivax
Varicella Virus Vaccine Live (chicken pox Vaccine)
Merck & Co., Inc. 800-672-6372

Produced using sucrose, phosphate, glutamate, proceessed gelatin
medium: Human Diploid Cells (originating from human aborted fetal tissue)

Vaccines Grown In Aborted Fetal Cell Cultures

Chickenpox, VARIVAX: Merck
Hepatitis A, VAQTA: Merck
Polio (oral), Poliovac, Canada: Connaught
Polio, IMOVAX: Connaught
Rabies, Imovax: Pasteur Merieux
Rubella, MERUVAX: Merck

Vaccines With Live Virus

Chickenpox, VARIVAX: Merck
Measles, ATTENUVAX: Merck
Measles and Mumps, M-M-Vax: Merck
Measles, Mumps and Rubella, M-M-RII: Merck
Measles and Rubella, M-R-VaxII: Merck
Mumps, MUMPSVAX: Merck
Rubella, MERUVAX: Merck
Rubella and Mumps: BIAVAX

Vaccines – Genetically-Engineered

Hepatitis B: Merck
Hepatitis B: SmithKline Beecham
Lyme, LYMERIX: SmithKline Beecham
RSV, Synapis: MedIMMUNE (vaccine or preventive treatment?)

Vaccines With Animal And Cattle Parts

Chickenpox, VARIVAX — fetal bovine serum: Merck
Diphtheria, Tetanus, accelular Pertusssis, Acel-Immune — beef heart infusion: Lederle
Infanrix — bovine extract: SmithKline Beecham
Flu, FLUSHIELD — chick embryos: Wyeth: Fluzone — chicken embryos: Connaught
Measles, ATTENUVAX — hydrolyzed gelatin: Merck
Measles, Mumps and Rubella, M-M-RII — hydrolyzed gelatin: Merck
Mumps, MuMPSVAX — hydrolyzed gelatin: Merck
Polio, IPOL — calf serum, monkey kidney cells: Pasteur Merieux
Polio (oral), ORIMUNE — kidney cells, calf serum: Lederle
Rubella, MERUVAX — hydrolyzed gelatin: Merck
Rubella and Mumps, BIAVAX — hydrolyzed gelatin: Merck

Vaccines Using Cattle Material – (blood, fetal calf serum, meat broth–from
countries U.S. government states have a RISK OF MAD COW DISEASES.)

Anthrax: *BioPort DPT
Certiva, Anthrax: *BioPort DPT
Certiva, , diptheria, pertussis, tetanus: North American/Baxter International
DPT: Infanrix, diptheria, pertussis, tetanus: GlaxoSmithKline Beecham
Hep A: *Havrix, hepatitis A: GlaxoSmithKline Beecham
Hib *ActHIB, haemophilus influenza Type B: Aventis Pasteur
Hib: *OmniHIB: haemophilus influenza Type B: GlaxoSmithKline Beecham
Pneumonia, *PNU-IMUNE 23: Lederle/American Home Products
Polio IPOL: Aventis Pasteur

* Cattle parts are NOT LISTED in vaccine package insert

Illiniois Vaccine Awareness Coalition (IVAC)

“Ingredients

Vaccines are made up of small amounts of the bacteria, virus or other antigen and administered to stimulate the immune system to create antibodies to prevent future infections with the disease. Like many of the foods we eat, small amounts of chemicals may be added to the vaccine’s formula to preserve or improve its effectiveness and keep it sterile.
Sometimes a child may be sensitive to one of the components of a vaccine, and an allergic reaction may result. For this reason, you should discuss any allergies your child may have with your health care provider.
Recently a small group of very vocal but misinformed individuals have made accusations regarding the safety of vaccines, claiming that vaccines contain a laundry list of toxins. In many instances these allegations are completely incorrect. In others, the claims are taken out of context.
Dosing
The first thing that you have to consider in any discussion about so called toxins in vaccines is that everyday compounds can be either beneficial or toxic depending on the quantity used. For example, let’s consider water. No one would deny that it is important to drink plenty of water to remain healthy. But did you know that drinking too much water can kill you? While normal, healthy people have little to worry about, we still occasionally read stories about people actually dying from excess water consumption. But don’t panic, usually this happens under extreme circumstances, like following long bouts of sweating due to intensive exercise or exposure to very hot days.
A second mistake that people make when looking at ingredients in vaccines is that the whole doesn’t always equal the sum of its parts. A simple example of this theory can be found in the example of everyday table salt. Table salt is made of two very dangerous elements, chlorine and sodium. Chlorine is a dangerous gas; sodium is a highly reactive element that explodes when it comes into contact with water. Yet if you combine these two dangerous elements you get a very safe compound, simple table salt.
So before you classify a component as a ‘toxin,’ you must consider more than whether or not it is simply “in there.” You have to look at the quantity, how it is used, whether it is combined with some other element, whether it is used as part of the production and then stripped back out, and many other factors.
Vaccines may include:
Preservatives and stabilizers: Since 1968 the United States Code of Federal Regulations (the CFR) has required, in general, the addition of a preservative to multi-dose vials of vaccines; and worldwide, preservatives are routinely added to multi-dose vials of vaccine. Tragic consequences have followed the use of multi-dose vials that did not contain a preservative (including deaths) and have served as the driving force for this requirement.
Thimerosal: A commonly known preservative thimerosal, was at the center of controversy a few years ago. Thimerosal, an ethylmercury based preservative, was phased out of vaccines in the late 1990s in an effort to reduce the overall burden of mercury from all environmental sources. Unlike the methylmercury found in the environment, however, ethylmercury is quickly excreted from the body. Numerous studies have shown that autism rates are no lower in children who received vaccines without thimerosal than those who did. Today, influenza is the only vaccine that still contains thimerosal as a preservative, and there is a thimerosal-free formulation available for administration to children.
Formaldehyde may be used as an antimicrobial. Formaldehyde effectively inactivates the organisms and biological substances used in vaccines. Formaldehyde is present in the environment and is a byproduct of metabolism so it is already present in the human body.
Adjuvants: Aluminum has been used in some vaccines for over 75 years to improve the vaccine’s performance by helping to stimulate the body’s immune system to produce antibodies. Without the use of an adjuvant we would need to administer more shots in a given vaccine series or face lower immunity and less protection from the disease. Aluminum is also commonly found in food, water, infant formula and even breast milk.
Egg Protein: Some vaccines are prepared in eggs. If your child has had an allergic reaction to eggs or egg products, you should be sure to discuss this with your child’s doctor.
In addition to these ingredients you may have heard that vaccines contain products such as antifreeze and other outrageous components. This is not true. The claim of antifreeze being in vaccines comes from the use of polyethylene glycol in one brand of the flu vaccine to inactivate the virus. It is also used to purify certain vaccines. But polyethylene glycol is not antifreeze; it is just a component that is found in antifreeze, just as water is a component. Polyethylene glycol has a low toxicity,* and is used in a variety of products. It is the basis of a number of laxatives and skin creams, and is used as an irrigating solution in surgical procedures and in drug overdoses.

* Victor O. Sheftel (2000). Indirect Food Additives and Polymers: Migration and Toxicology. CRC, 1114-1116.”

http://www.vaccinateyourbaby.org/about/ingredients.cfm

- Metaphorical flowcharts will parallel logic flowcharts of importances/priorities: Redwoods (latest National Geographic again covers the Redwoods with maps, etc) echo ‘Bridge to Freedom’. Infact some of Frank Lloyd Wright’s houses are like trees – strong bases, trunks, canopies – anything biospheric is popular – Jedi/Zen, etc. The charts are the new economy/civilisation – if there is to be one at all – for necrasphere loves destroying/replacing chart order/clarities with it’s oppersite: confusion: toxic vaccines, DU ammo, BtGE, plastic in place of hemp industries, etc – so we have a bit to repair now as we go into the new economy via Giant Global Graph (g3) Internet 3.0 and WebOS (Web Operating System) internet 4.0, etc Ethics TechAdmin. Just compare Kzero’s potentially wiki-able VR Chart compared to Googling “VR” to know the value of info in order as an economy. Necra PR’s it has something vita to teach – PR’s you: “might qualify someday” – but it’s them they know not vita – they are not of it or ‘games’ either (games imply fair, which they never are) and have none to teach – only distractions/stops of/to it. So, as long as we don’t have flowcharts, we only have them, as Govt, and they know it. The more charts the more us we have as Govt: ‘out of darkness and into the light/new age’, etc.
http://gigaom.com/2009/10/09/is-augmented-reality-just-the-beginning-of-the-3-d-revolution/
http://www.bodyspacesociety.eu/2009/10/10/virtual-worlds-are-in-good-shape/:
http://www.bodyspacesociety.eu/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/universe-q2-09a1.jpg, info@kzero.co.uk, http://www.kzero.co.uk/blog/?cat=34

Truth on (Polio) vaccines:
http://www.thebirdman.org/Index/Others/Others-Doc-Health&Medicine/+Doc-Health&Medicine-MscCures&Suggestions/PolioCausedByPoisons_files/current16.htm