9/11 Truth : Dr David Ray Griffen Speaks @ Santa Rosa College

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m9RJPeP3haM&feature=related

Why universities should study 9/11

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t1jb-0ClpbM

Just thought I’d contribute a brief piece in light of the distinct lack of trolling on the site at present, which has the unfortunate side effect of bolstering Scott, Phil and co.’s already considerable egos by making it seem as if the rest of the world (i.e. the other dozen or so paranoids who comment on the site) actually agrees with their delusions:

“the emotional prospect” of the reality that “a small but determined bunch of swarthy semitic types in robes operating out of a cave with some box-cutters actually triggered a war that killed 3,000 Americans along the eastern seaboard of North America…” is at the core of the truther movements in general.
Yep. There’s no way a small group of ‘ignorant, inferior’ Arabs could have changed American history in such a way. Only Americans can do that to themselves, in keeping with the nationalist myths of American exceptionalism.

“Just thought I’d contribute a brief piece in light of the … blah blah blah”

Yeah thanks Alex don’t forget to flush.

Scott – not much bile and invective by your usual standards. I was hoping to be ‘ewinged’ more thoroughly…

hey wow cool, alex is back trying to stifle dissent shouting “racist!” at people who do not agree with everything the mass media spoon feeds us.
you are a fearsome opponent alex, fearsome.
I think your pony-tail is coming loose alex, best you tighten it up or you might have an independent thought.

The onus is on the US Government to disclose evidence. Until then how can we not presume guilt?

eg. After the 911 commission sham – the fact that 6 out of 10 Commission heads now consider their report constituted a whitewash ?

http://www.911truth.org/article.php?story=20050523112738404

Free Willie Nelson Mandela!

Kim Hill-ock is a trout. The interview was a sham and she embarrassed herself. Gage just kept on going despite Hillock throwing every dirty trick in the book at him and being exceptionally rude. Well done Mr Gage… not that he will be reading this…

Shock horror! that was actually quite a reasonable interview, and no-one mentioned darwinism!

doh, the above comment was about the closeup interview not the kim ‘the trout’ hill interview…

9/11 Revisited: Were explosives used? [] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PWgSaBT9hNU []

NEW VIDEO OF WTC DEMOLITION [] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y3X-NvZBG04 []

EXPLOSIVE TESTIMONY! / MacQueen NYFD 9/11 witnesses [] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cZ4dVo5QgYg []

911 Mysteries- Demolitions(part1) [] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y5_tTRliTDo [] “This film has 90 minutes of pure demolition evidence and analysis, laced with staggering witness testimonials.
Moving from “the myth” through “the analysis” and into “the players,” careful deconstruction of the official story set right alongside clean, clear science. The 9/11 picture is not one of politics or nationalism or loyalty, but one of strict and simple physics.”

[2] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KnNA7AEM4UM [3] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ilM3uAMqi6s

“Happy As Larry – The WTC7 Implosion” [] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EZ9BofDUXv0 []
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Unusual Evacuations & Power-Downs before WTC 911 Demolition [] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3qUAtbkzjBQ []

“Amazing, incredible, pick your word. For the third time today, it’s reminiscent of those pictures we’ve all seen too much on television before, where a building was deliberately destroyed by well placed dynamite to knock it down.”

CBS News anchor Dan Rather commenting on the collapse of Building 7 – September 11, 2001 at approx 5:30pm EST.
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An interesting read… Barrie Zwicker – “The Left Gatekeepers” “This essay is excerpted from Chapter 5 of Barrie Zwicker’s book, Towers of Deception. Barrie squarely addresses the issue of Left Gatekeepers, those wonderful and sensitive souls of the Left who bring us the ‘real story’ on alternative radio. These include most of the regulars I hear over the only alternative FM radio station available here in southern California, Pacifica’s Radio KPFK out of Los Angeles. Amy Goodman, Lila Garrett, Sonali Kolhatkar, David Basarmian, Howard Zinn, and Noam Chomsky are but a handful of the more prominent names. What we hear from Chomsky, Zinn, and even Bill Moyers, are sublime and poignant commentary on the barbarities of our day- from the heartless profiteering by corporate fat cats to the incalculable misery imposed on the people of Afghanistan and Iraq by right wing ‘neo cons’ bent on ever-greater profits from oil, but we don’t hear ONE word about 911 being an Inside Job. We don’t hear one word about Chemtrails. We hear nothing of Rex 84, FEMA concentration camps… We hear zero criticism of the majority in congress who have voted for legislation or who sponsored bills which encouraged the hordes of illegal aliens to pour into this country from our southern border and deprive Americans of fair wage jobs, while saddling American taxpayers with the cost of incarceration, medical care, and schooling for roughly 32 million illegals. What we hear from Left Gatekeepers is what the Illuminati WANTS us to hear from a thoroughly controlled ‘alternative’ news source”

- Ken Adachi [] http://educate-yourself.org/cn/zwickergatekeepersofleft05oct07.shtml []
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Philip says:
“Happy As Larry – The WTC7 Implosion” [] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EZ9BofDUXv0 []

Some questions regarding the PBS quote by Larry Silverstein, Ken:
-Why would he have publicly admitted even to knowing that there were planted explosives in WTC 7 in the first place?

-What was Silverstein Properties’ and the FDNY’s motive for blowing up a perfectly good, 14 year-old building, losing hundreds of millions of dollars in cash flow from it for eight years and counting, spending ~$700 million, or most of the $861 million insurance settlement, on obligatory replacement of it, and paying ~$500 million back to lenders?
(note: it was built in 1986-1987, at least 15 years after asbestos was written out of all building codes, and it had no asbestos in its SFRM or elsewhere.)

-Why would any insurance company have paid him a dime instead of the $4.68 billion total he received if he publicly admitted to foreknowledge of or complicity in the alleged secret demolition of his property, but especially those based in Copenhagen, Zurich (2 of them), and London?

-How did he or the FDNY know that flaming debris from a taller collapsing hi-rise across the street would hit WTC 7, start multi-story fires in it, and break the water main to it, disabling the sprinklers and providing a cover story for the demolition?

-If the alleged explosives were pre-planted, which would have taken weeks or even months in a vacant building and been completely impossible to do secretly in an occupied one, and Barry Jennings heard some of them go off around 10 AM, why was there any discussion at all in mid-afternoon about whether or not to demolish WTC 7 with the other apparently fireproof explosives a few stories higher?

-Do controlled demolitions take seven or eight hours to collapse a building?

-Do they leave no severed columns with copper residue on the ends, or any other evidence in the debris?

-Do they leave ~12 stories on one corner standing?

-Is the FDNY in the controlled demolition business? What other buildings, on fire or not, have they demolished before or since 9/11?

-Please link me to a C/D contractor’s web site, and show me the use of “pull” or “pull it” to refer to building demolition using explosives, not one in which cables are used to pull an already damaged building over, as was done with WTC 6.

-How does a “terrible loss of life” in the WTC towers affect a later decision to demolish a nearby building with no one in it?

-There was a pre-existing ConEd substation at the Vesey Street WTC 7 site in 1986, and the building was designed to straddle it, requiring some of the extremely long (~50′) girder and beam spans inside that contributed to the 9/11 collapse. It was powered up and in full use on 9/11/01, and the demolition of a 200,000 ton, 47-story building directly on top of it probably didn’t do it much good. Do you know whether ConEd’s insurers just absorbed the loss of tens of millions of dollars in infrastructure damage and restoration and then subrogated Industrial Risk Insurers, since Larry Silverstein’s firm was still the responsible party?

Btw, did you know that Silverstein owed more on the lease for the towers than he paid out of pocket, and that his lenders forced him to up the face values on his policies, since he didn’t want to pay the increased money in premiums?

Thanks.

Spam alert!

See the post by ewingsc | May 19, 2010, 6:17 pm
http://uncensored.co.nz/2010/04/27/911-debunker-gets-his-ass-handed-to-him-by-richard-gage/

If you’re a 9/11 “theorist,” fyi, please feel free to answer those questions about LS’s 2002 PBS statement.

You -suck- albury.

http://careandwashingofthebrain.blogspot.com/2010/05/that-lucky-lucky-lucky-lucky-larry.html

-What was Silverstein Properties’ and the FDNY’s motive for blowing up a perfectly good, 14 year-old building, losing hundreds of millions of dollars in cash flow from it for eight years and counting, spending ~$700 million, or most of the $861 million insurance settlement, on obligatory replacement of it, and paying ~$500 million back to lenders?
(note: it was built in 1986-1987, at least 15 years after asbestos was written out of all building codes, and it had no asbestos in its SFRM or elsewhere.)

-Why would any insurance company have paid him a dime instead of the $4.68 billion total he received if he publicly admitted to foreknowledge of or complicity in the alleged secret demolition of his property, but especially those based in Copenhagen, Zurich (2 of them), and London?

-How did he or the FDNY know that flaming debris from a taller collapsing hi-rise across the street would hit WTC 7, start multi-story fires in it, and break the water main to it, disabling the sprinklers and providing a cover story for the demolition?

-If the alleged explosives were pre-planted, which would have taken weeks or even months in a vacant building and been completely impossible to do secretly in an occupied one, and Barry Jennings heard some of them go off around 10 AM, why was there any discussion at all in mid-afternoon about whether or not to demolish WTC 7 with the other apparently fireproof explosives a few stories higher?

Spam much ?

Avoid answering questions much, ew?

9/11 Truth vs Mainstream Media – Twenty Minutes With The President – Round 3 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JbOEVb92H54

The 9/11 Commission: See No Evil, Hear No Evil, Speak No Evil! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1×4TD0WP3pM

“Something Wasn’t Right That Day” Witnesses Hear Explosions http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dzUNvEfYDEQ

Hijackers Exposed http://uncensored.co.nz/2010/04/15/911s-ten-amazing-reasons-why-the-hijackers-were-fake/

Government Officials Expose 9/11 http://www.wanttoknow.info/officialsquestion911commissionreport

The 9/11 Commission Report: Omissions and Distortions http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=leY9SJAQqnU

- The Department of Counterspam

When the Department of Counterspam gets through spamming with truther nut videos, maybe you could explain why no steel was pulled from the WTC debris with cutter charge signatures on its ends. If you’re also libeling Larry Silverstein, my questions about that were posted May 20 at 8:31 AM.

Larry Silverstein’s fishing buddy,

As you well know, peddler of the official lie, the answer to your question [2:28 am] is being
reprinted here http://uncensored.co.nz/2010/04/27/911-debunker-gets-his-ass-handed-to-him-by-richard-gage/
“An Unprecedented Destruction of Evidence” at Ground Zero by Kevin Ryan
In 15 parts, so far.

My questions were completely avoided by you in that reply, ew.
Once again:
-Why would Larry Silverstein have publicly admitted even to knowing that there were planted explosives in WTC 7 in the first place?

-What was Silverstein Properties’ and the FDNY’s motive for blowing up a perfectly good, 14 year-old building, losing hundreds of millions of dollars in cash flow from it for eight years and counting, spending ~$700 million, or most of the $861 million insurance settlement, on obligatory replacement of it, and paying ~$500 million back to lenders?
(note: it was built in 1986-1987, at least 15 years after asbestos was written out of all building codes, and it had no asbestos in its SFRM or elsewhere.)

-Why would any insurance company have paid him a dime instead of the $4.68 billion total he received if he publicly admitted to foreknowledge of or complicity in the alleged secret demolition of his property, but especially those based in Copenhagen, Zurich (2 of them), and London?

-How did he or the FDNY know that flaming debris from a taller collapsing hi-rise across the street would hit WTC 7, start multi-story fires in it, and break the water main to it, disabling the sprinklers and providing a cover story for the demolition?

-If the alleged explosives were pre-planted, which would have taken weeks or even months in a vacant building and been completely impossible to do secretly in an occupied one, and Barry Jennings heard some of them go off around 10 AM, why was there any discussion at all in mid-afternoon about whether or not to demolish WTC 7 with the other apparently fireproof explosives a few stories higher?

-Do controlled demolitions take seven or eight hours to collapse a building?

-Do they leave no severed columns with copper residue on the ends, or any other evidence in the debris?

-Do they leave ~12 stories on one corner standing?

-Is the FDNY in the controlled demolition business? What other buildings, on fire or not, have they demolished before or since 9/11?

-Please link me to a C/D contractor’s web site, and show me the use of “pull” or “pull it” to refer to building demolition using explosives, not one in which cables are used to pull an already damaged building over, as was done with WTC 6.

-How does a “terrible loss of life” in the WTC towers affect a later decision to demolish a nearby building with no one in it?

-There was a pre-existing ConEd substation at the Vesey Street WTC 7 site in 1986, and the building was designed to straddle it, requiring some of the extremely long (~50′) girder and beam spans inside that contributed to the 9/11 collapse. It was powered up and in full use on 9/11/01, and the demolition of a 200,000 ton, 47-story building directly on top of it probably didn’t do it much good. Do you know whether ConEd’s insurers just absorbed the loss of tens of millions of dollars in infrastructure damage and restoration and then subrogated Industrial Risk Insurers, since Larry Silverstein’s firm was still the responsible party?

Btw, did you know that Silverstein owed more on the lease for the towers than he paid out of pocket, and that his lenders forced him to up the face values on his policies, since he didn’t want to pay the increased money in premiums?

“Defending the good name of Larry Silverstein” may keep leave you little time for sleep:

“Pull It” http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cs39xJq5Kf8 _ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GVHv8oOFohE

> http://nhtruth.blogspot.com/2010/04/bombshell-silverstein-wanted-to.html <

Why don’t you try answering my questions, ew?

“Why don’t you try answering my questions, ew?”

Now there’s the pot calling the kettle black.

Louder ?

I’M. NOT. HERE. TO. HELP. YOU SELL. YOUR.

-BULLSHIT-

-DISINFO-

-STRATEGIES-

… did you hear me that time ?

Wait … i’ll repeat myself for further clarity :

I’M. NOT. HERE. TO. HELP. YOU SELL. YOUR.

-BULLSHIT-

-DISINFO-

-STRATEGIES-

But – I am confused about your apparent certainty over a ‘probable collapse sequence’

Emphasis on the word ‘probable’

“Do controlled demolitions take seven or eight hours to collapse a building?”

I think your stopwatch is broken, asshole :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AsJQKpnkZ10

I’m confused over the fact that you don’t even know wtf NIST’s Probable Collapse Sequence in NCSTAR 1A is, yet you think, for lack of a better word, that it’s wrong. You nuts also cite every loud noise heard in the towers and Building 7 as evidence of controlled demolition, and transformers in the ConEd substation exploded before the North Tower collapsed, so that’s well over 7 hours prior to the 5:21 PM collapse of WTC 7.
Please feel free to answer the other questions too. Do insurance companies, especially foreign insurers, usually pay billions to guys who publicly admit to blowing up their own insured property, or are you guys choking your chickens again?

Feel free to walk off a roof.

I am confused about your apparent certainty over a ‘probable collapse sequence’

Emphasis on the word ‘probable’

You’re confused over a lot of things, ew. Have a mature adult explain the NIST reports to you for starters.

9/11 Truth responds to NIST http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qFpbZ-aLDLY

Department of Counterspam

Some goofy video from a troofer nut is your only exposure to NCSTAR 1A, innit DCS/ew?

I am confused about alblury’s apparent

-certainty-

over a ‘-probable- collapse sequence’

Emphasis on the word ‘probable’

Of course he won’t be commenting on that since his job here is to make 911 discourse and the presentation of information about 911 … ‘alblurry’

Hope alblury likes his new home here at uncensored where he has begun to spend his days.

You really are confused, ew. I only asked you why the Probable Collapse Sequence in NCSTAR 1A was wrong. Would you please explain that to us?

“Hope alblury likes his new home here at uncensored where he has begun to spend his days.”

2 months later, the drone is still here
on assignment.

http://rense.com/general32/25.htm

Please feel free to answer my questions about Silverstein’s 2002 PBS statement, cnp, which I posted here May 20 at 8:31 am.

“2 months later, the drone is still here
on assignment.”

… and he’s still spamming his same old fuckwit questions.

What a trooper.

WTC7 responded to a decision to “pullit” and collapsed on cue.

Pretty smart building for one never hit by an airplane huh?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7WYdAJQV100

If it looks like a controlled demolition,

collapses like a controlled demolition,

and leaves a mountain of evidence like a controlled demolition – then …?

What “mountain of evidence,” ew, and how would it have come down if the Probable Collapse Sequence in NCSTAR 1A had happened?

shouldn’t you be trying to stop your country from turning Iran into a glass parking lot Albury?
Since you are so ‘anti-war’ and stuff…

Richard Gage is a charlatan and a liar, Osama Breath™, and that has nothing to do with US policy toward Iran, which isn’t to attack them anyway.

“What ‘mountain of evidence’”
says the corporate slave that still refuses to reveal who sent him here to lie to us.

The “mountain of evidence”
includes, but is not limited to,
all of the video clips clearly displaying the controlled demolition of building 7

Agent Smith has seen them all before;
but his job here includes trying to convince us that we didn’t see what the videos clearly show.
Controlled demolition.

So Agent Smith badgers us to change our minds
and line our thinking up with
the official account of what happened that day.
So we can be obedient government-trusting puppets like Agent Smith.

Graphic Evidence of Explosive Demolition on September 11th http://maine911truth.org/photos.html
“Having witnessed the collapse of the second tower on television, I noticed brilliant white flashes on the lower floors immediately before collapse. Why was that? Why was that film clip never seen on TV again?” – Capt. Stephen M. Gann, PhD, U.S. Navy Reserve (ret) – Analytical Chemist. Former Licensed Professional Engineer with 18 years experience as a nuclear chemist.

“Several things are very clear to me from a careful assessment of both official and critical evaluations of the 9/11 attacks. First, the striking aircraft alone simply could not have brought down either of the two buildings in the manner in which they fell, much less a third building which was not hit by a plane (I expect the one intended to do that as a ‘cover’ had ended up in that Pennsylvania field), given the available physical evidence and a wealth of expert testimony. This means the attackers had assistance on the ground, and it had to have been active before the attacks occurred: preparing buildings for controlled demolition is not something done haphazardly in the midst of chaos.”

- Alan N. Sabrosky, PhD – Former Director of Studies, Strategic Studies Institute and holder of the General of the Army Douglas MacArthur Chair of Research, U.S. Army War College. A Marine Corps Vietnam veteran with 10 years of service. Graduate of the U.S. Army War College.

The “mountain of evidence” would have been hundreds of suspicious cuts on steel columns found in the debris, M C C. It’s pretty hard to make a mountain out of exactly nothing, unless you’re in the 9/11 “truth movement.”

but werent all th steel beams rushed off to the smelter…

“The “mountain of evidence”
includes, but is not limited to,
all of the video clips clearly displaying the controlled demolition of building 7

Agent Smith has seen them all before;
but his job here includes trying to convince us that we didn’t see what the videos clearly show.
Controlled demolition.”

That’s his role here alright, MCC.

As his months of spammy bullshit posting everyday on Uncensored clearly shows

“but werent all th steel beams rushed off to the smelter…”

Only if you’re in the 9/11 “truth movement,” undecided. It took eight months to clean up Ground Zero, and the people who handled the hundreds of thousands of tons of steel were actually allowed to look at it, as were ASCE, FEMA, SEAoNY, NSF, and other engineers. It’s very difficult to inspect or move steel blindfolded.

hi Albury

I invite you to join me in Cambodia … you could hand out a few pennys here and there to all the cripples, orphans, street-child sex victims, mutilated, burnt, armless, legless non-people who crowd the streets…

remind me again why you carpet bombed this country…
Islamic murderers?
Communist murderers?
people who were once united on a socialist democratic path murderers?

…unacceptable to The Great US Empire…

next week we’ll talk a little about Chile and Central America..

you disgusting foul mouthpiece…

goyim jabbers: “next week we’ll talk a little about Chile and Central America..”

Let me know when you’re ready to discuss Richard Gage, the topic of the article, goyim.

“his job here includes trying to convince us that we didn’t see what the videos clearly show.
Controlled demolition”

… because he’s a disgusting little shitbox …

I think we should investigate Richard Gage, not the WTC collapses, which have already been investigated by much more qualified, competent, and honest people. The NIST engineers were only able to time the top 18 stories, or 242′, of the collapse of WTC 7′ facade, and determined that it took 5.4 seconds, yet he claims that the entire 610′ collapse only took ~6.5 seconds. Did the other 368′ fall in just over 1 second? How is he even able to give us a time for the entire visible portion of the collapse when NIST couldn’t because buildings in the foreground blocked the view of video cameras?
How could the towers have free fallen when the loose, airborne debris from their upper stories was falling so much faster than the collapse zones, and began hitting the ground while at least 40 stories in each were still intact? Was g increased on 9/11? They fell in ~15 and ~22 seconds respectively, nowhere near the ~9.25 seconds free fall would have taken:

http://www.youtube.com/user/RKOwens4#p/u/40/qLShZOvxVe4

yet he begins every presentation with his near free-fall claim. He’s also claimed that the dust clouds from the collapses were pyroclastic, but there are no reports of anyone’s skin being instantly peeled off, and he’s claimed that the fires in WTC 7 were minor, totally contradicting these NYC eyewitnesses:

http://sites.google.com/site/wtc7lies/eyewitnessaccountsofwtc7fires
http://sites.google.com/site/wtc7lies/accountsofwtc7damage
http://sites.google.com/site/wtc7lies/eyewitnessaccountsofthewithdrawalfromwtc

How could his claim that 400,000 yards of concrete were turned to fine powder be true, when there was <100,000 yards of concrete above grade in both towers combined? Does he know how to turn 400,000 yards of concrete to fine powder with explosives without leveling NYC?
Has he ever seen a controlled demolition that left molten metal in the debris for months? Has he ever seen one that didn't leave even one explosively-cut column in the debris? Since he claims that explosives were planted in the core columns to start the collapses, and that it was done from elevators shafts, has he ever looked a floor plan of the cores above the 78th floor sky lobby? There were only 6 regular elevators above there, plus a freight and 2 express elevators, and they were only near 6 of the 47 core columns. Several of those were in the paths of the planes, and the perimeter columns collapsed first, so his "theory" doesn't even make sense, especially considering the fact that 3- or more stories of core framing stood 15-25 seconds after each tower's main collapse was over.
We should investigate Richard Gage, as well as his "engineers."

http://forums.randi.org/showpost.php?p=3834688&postcount=12