Member of Israeli flotilla “investigation” has history of terrorism.

http://www.richardsilverstein.com/tikun_olam/2010/06/17/amos-horev-castrated-palestinian-in-blood-vengeance/

Great interview – The Truth Beast vs The One-Sided BBC Lizard.

He’s amazing.

She’s the reason that BBC news sucks now – and has for years.

It was all over by round two

Cut and pasted commentary from the comments section of here :

http://pulsemedia.org/2010/06/24/kenneth-okeefe-on-bbcs-hardtalk/

This HardTalk interview with O’Keefe demonstrates the bankruptcy of journalism at the BBC.

True to form, Sarah Montague, the interviewer, fires off an incessant number of hostile questions at the interviewee prefaced with “Israel says”, “Israel argues”, and “Israel claims”.

This isn’t playing the “devil’s advocate”, this is playing “Israel’s advocate” role.
NB: if one counts these prefaced questions with “Israel says/argues/claims” there are twenty two of them.

The questions Montague avoids are the ones dealing with O’Keefe’s motivation to go to Gaza and to be such a committed freedom fighter (the word activist is rather lame when one witnesses his courage and decency).

And the implication throughout is that the activists aboard the ships were merely asking for it and getting what they deserved given that they resisted.

The focus is on the slice of time when the Israelis commandos stormed the ships killing some activists.

The purpose of the trip and what led to this civil society action are avoided.

In the process Montague manages to imply that it is the activists who are at fault — possibly criminal – and who also consort with unspeakable organizations such as “Hamas”.

The evidence about IHH presented by Montague is certainly tainted, yet it is no bar to fling it against O’Keefe.

Shouldn’t journalistic standards have implied that the BBC should have determined the veracity and credibility of the claims?

Journalism or quality interviews shouldn’t merely put forth the case of the opposing party – in this case it would be the issues disingenuously raised by Israel, the oppressor nation.

The aim of quality journalism should be to determine what happened, and for this Montague should have asked

“What happened on the Mavi Marmara?”,

but even more important, she should have asked “why did you choose to go on the Mavi Marmara?”

Instead all the questions dealt with “who initiated violence” or “was it worth it?”

This is the same type of question asked of the Palestinian victims in Gaza after the 2008-2009 massacre by asking them “who do you think is responsible for this?”

And isn’t it amazing that it is the peace activist who gets questioned in this hostile manner?

Now, would HardTalk countenance asking Israeli officials hostile questions about the nature of their assault on the Mavi Marmara?

Would such questions be prefaced with “peace activists say/claim”?

Would HardTalk ask about the nature of the siege it has imposed on Gaza with the consequent humanitarian disaster?

Or would HardTalk ask about Dov Weissglas’ statement about “putting Palestinians on a diet”, a quotation that seems to cause much amusement among Israelis today.

Given the nature of current day BBC, the possibility for asking such questions of Israeli officials would be non-existent.

Imagine for a second if during the apartheid years in South Africa if a peace activist had attempted a similar humanist gesture to help the oppressed black South Africans, and if such person had been beaten savagely by the soldiers.

Would the BBC have prefaced hostile questions with “South Africa says” or “South Africa claims”?

Would HardTalk have intimated that such person was the cause of violence?

Or would they have avoided the main reasons that drove the activist to this level of sacrifice?

If this analogy sounds preposterous, then why can Montague play such an ignominious role?

This can only be explained by the pusillanimity and bias of BBC journalists and their editors.

The order is out at the BBC to hide the true nature of the Israeli colonial project and it genocidal consequences.

The order of the day for Montague was to put the onus on the peace activists and attempt to discredit them.

But by discrediting the likes of O’Keefe, the only thing achieved is for the BBC to have discredited itself.

Gaza survivor Ken O’Keefe to follow up on BBC interview on the Kevin Barrett Show

http://truthjihadradio.blogspot.com/2010/06/tuesday-629-gaza-flotilla-survivor.html

Song of the Day:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TqyfBQ-Yxdc

Rights Group Files FOIA Requests Regarding Israel Attack on Flotilla Delivering Aid to Gaza

Questions Asked Regarding U.S. Knowledge of, and Response to, Attack that Killed One U.S. Citizen, Others Injured and Detained

http://www.commondreams.org/newswire/2010/07/01-8?

I do on occasion buy Investigate Magazine however I can’t say I agree with everything Ian Wishart says. This months issue has a couple of writers spouting out utter IDF propaganda. I got so angry reading the lies that I threw the tripe in the bin.

The Israeli bias of the magazine has been obvious before but never as bad as this issue.

You should have seen investigate mag during operation cast lead a year and a half ago.

It was all ‘rockets’ and ‘islam’.

investigate has a religious bent to it that has always bothered me.

That and the Ann Coulter column, of course.

It’s as if they think that the future of this planet is going to be white and christian, or something.

The reality is that without the blockade Hamas will import rockets and other weapons to fire at Israel. If anyone was in a position to stop your enemies to stop getting weapons they would do the same. The blockade is needed, no question.

The strictness of the blockades are another argument, and I believe that everything that is non military, or that cant be converted into military use should be let through with no delay.

The next point is to the people of Gaza who elected into Government a group that is considered a terrorist organisation by many governments and that has the destruction of Israel as part of their constitution. I say pick your battles guys…., having such a confrontational government was always going to increase the violence in the short term. They are currently reaping the rewards of their democratic decision. A no brainer there.

The Israelis are in the power position, and the Palestinians are winning hearts and minds through there suffering …….. but really how long are they prepared to be martyrs for the Muslim world. Pull the pin, change your government, reject violence, open the boarders and start with small goals like a well functioning Governance, Educational and Civil Structures. Once you have met the needs of your people you can start the negotiations for the next set of goals and then finally a settlement with a co sharing or two state solution or what ever the final solution is.

Fighting for years is foolish when everyone good be living well and still talking through the issues now if the Palestinians would only pursue a more educated and strategic process to address their grievances.

Firstly:
you are merely parroting the dominant narrative of the main stream Zionist media. The blockade is only one symptom of the larger ethnic cleansing that has been in process since 1948.

Ilan Pappe:
“Once begun, the whole ugly business took six months to complete. It expelled about 800,000 people, killed many others, and destroyed 531 villages and 11 urban neighbourhoods in cities like Tel-Aviv, Haifa and Jerusalem. The action was a clear case of ethnic cleansing that international law today calls a crime against humanity for which convicted Nazis at Nuremberg were hanged. So far Israelis have always remained immune from international law even though names of guilty leaders and those charged with implementing their orders are known as well as the crimes they committed. ”

http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=viewArticle&code=LEN20070207&articleId=4715
Llan Pappe is professor of history at the University of Exeter in the UK, co-director of the Exeter Centre for Ethno-Political Studies, and political activist. He was formerly a senior lecturer in political science at the University of Haifa (1984–2007), and chair of the Emil Touma Institute for Palestinian and Israeli Studies in Haifa (2000–2008).

Secondly:
This crap about the destruction of Israel….

Khaled Meshaal is the political leader of the Palestinian Hamas movement, In summer 2006, Israeli Minister of Justice Haim Ramon publicly confirmed his government’s order to kill Khaled Meshaal.. He was interviewed by Rainer Rupp (RR), a German journalist for the daily Junge Welt, published in Berlin with nationwide distribution.

RR: Have I understood you correctly that you would be prepared to negotiate with Israel and accept it within its borders of 1967, before it started its wars of aggression, stealing Palestinian land?

KM: Good, that has been made clear.

RR: In the West, Hamas is generally depicted as being absolutely against talks with Israel and [it's believed] that Hamas only wants to drive the Israeli Jews into the sea.

KM: This is not correct. Killing Jews is not our aim. For centuries we have lived in Palestine peacefully with Jews and Christians of all kinds.

We are fighting Israel because it occupies our land and oppresses our people. We are fighting Israel to finish this occupation. We want to live freely on our land just as other nations. We want to have our own country just like other people.

But the Zionist movement came from all over the world to occupy our land. And the real owner of the land has been kicked out. This is the root of the problem.
Because of many factors, we now accept to build a Palestinian state within the borders of 1967. But that doesn’t mean that we recognize Israel. But we are prepared to make a long-term truce with Israel. Accepting the status of Israel without recognizing it.

Please read the full interview here:

http://www.antiwar.com/orig/rupp.php?articleid=10195

Thirdly:

“start with small goals like a well functioning Governance, Educational and Civil Structures.”

The Goldstone report for the UN on Operation Cast Lead:

XIII. ATTACKS ON THE FOUNDATIONS OF CIVILIAN LIFE IN GAZA:
DESTRUCTION OF INDUSTRIAL INFRASTRUCTURE, FOOD PRODUCTION,
WATER INSTALLATIONS, SEWAGE TREATMENT PLANTS AND HOUSING
(Page 253)

‘The facts ascertained by the Mission indicate that there was a deliberate and systematic
policy on the part of the Israeli armed forces to target industrial sites and water installations. In a
number of testimonies given to Breaking the Silence, Israeli soldiers have described in detail the
way in which what is at one point euphemistically referred to as “infrastructure work” was
carried out. The deployment of bulldozers for systematic destruction is graphically recounted.
Soldiers confirm in considerable detail information provided to the Mission by witnesses.’

http://www.goldstone-report.org/

Fourthly:

“A new word emerged from the carnage in Gaza this week: “scholasticide” – the systematic destruction by Israeli forces of centres of education dear to Palestinian society, as the ministry of education was bombed, the infrastructure of teaching destroyed, and schools across the Gaza strip targeted for attack by the air, sea and ground offensives.”

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/jan/10/gaza-schools

next you’ll be telling us that Hamas broke the ceasefire that ‘forced’ Israel to launch Operation Cast Lead….

“The next point is to the people of Gaza who elected into Government a group that is considered a terrorist organisation by many.. ”
Posted by Alex | July 4, 2010, 8:30 pm

Since 2000, the United Nations General Assembly has been negotiating a Comprehensive Convention on International Terrorism. The definition of the crime of terrorism, which has been on the negotiating table since 2002 reads as follows:

“1. Any person commits an offence within the meaning of this Convention if that person, by any means, unlawfully and intentionally, causes:
(a) Death or serious bodily injury to any person; or
(b) Serious damage to public or private property, including a place of public use, a State or government facility, a public transportation system, an infrastructure facility or the environment; or
(c) Damage to property, places, facilities, or systems referred to in paragraph 1 (b) of this article, resulting or likely to result in major economic loss,
when the purpose of the conduct, by its nature or context, is to intimidate a population, or to compel a Government or an international organization to do or abstain from doing any act.”

Possibly you live in the US or Israel, because outside of these two countries it is widely considered that the US and Israel are the two foremost terrorist organisations on the planet.

http://www.dci-pal.org/english/display.cfm?DocId=1476&CategoryId=1

http://www.dci-pal.org/english/display.cfm?DocId=1476&CategoryId=1

http://www.breakingthesilence.org.il/oferet/index_e.asp

http://www.goldstone-report.org/

Israel is expanding, Alex.

This is the root cause of this conflict.

http://www.sauer-thompson.com/archives/opinion/2010/03/18/israel-palestine-map.jpg

Good points, Alex, but these high beams think Israel’s the aggressor, and wants to conquer the Moslems who outnumber them at least 100 to 1. Not only does Hamas hide behind their civilians, they use their deaths after they attack and Israel retaliates as propaganda, just to turn world opinion against Israel, which has every right to defend itself from a group seeking to annihilate them.

Thanks people for your feedback and apologies for my poor grammar in my first post. Dyslexia, love it.

So a few points to put forward:

As to who owns the land, well the reality is that you could go back centuries as the land has been occupied by one group or the other, the Crusaders had a good crack at it for a while as has everyone else. I guess one might stop at Moses as the first person to have claimed the land? Anyhew, what I am trying to get at is as the land is so hotly contested by each group, if you use the “we have more right to it than you” thinking you are never going to get a winner. Its either going to be Muslims attacking Jews or Vice Versa if the Palestinians are given all the land back.

So, where does this leave us. It seems that war is not an option. Over the years from the 6 day war, to Yom Kipper the Israelis have proven to have the biggest stick in the play ground, backed by the biggest dog in the yard. Lets face it, the Muslim world has spent the last 60 years giving a good crack at ridding the world of Israel, yet its arguably its the the best run of the all the countries in the area. You can continue to pound your head against a door, or you can knock on it and talk your way in. Lets try knocking on the door.

So it looks like there needs to be a peace treaty with each side conceding to reach a settlement. The starting of the talking can only be done when there is no war. Normally you would only continue with the war to increase your leverage, but lets face it, there is not really much there.

The issue is that Hamas has only left the war option open as this was their election platform. Sure the PLO wasn’t great, corruption, greed etc – but better than Hamas. Lets not forget the civil war after the election which shows that Hamas do not have full control, and by continuing the fight against Israel they are showing that they are doing something as a Government and are uniting their country through war against Israel. Stronger leadership is needed in Palestine so that a truce can be called and talks started. Raining in all the hard line groups and generational hatred will be hard.

Once a full true truce is called Israel will have to let in the international media. This will be the first wedge that will open the chasm. Israel’s moral high ground has always been, and rightly so “we are being attacked, we need to defend ourselves” (also the correct justification for the stopping of the aid boats). With the attack issues over the media will apply the pressure to allow civil reconstruction. Israel has stifled civil services so far and it is a classic attempt to influence the voting. i.e. If you vote in an organisation that is trying to fight us we are going to make your life uncomfortable. Once this is not an option, international media attention will see to the water, power etc flowing again – not to mention jobs in Israel which Palestinians rely on. (Ironic, I know)

So, a quick round up:
We need to sort the land issue from how it is now, each side to forget a total win based on historical claims.

War doesn’t seem to be the answer, lets use negotiation.

Negotiation can’t happen with out a cease fire.

A cease fire cant happen without a change in government or leadership in Palestine.

A full settlement wont be won straight away, but once the Palestinians stop giving Israel reasons to control the situation they can get more out of the negotiations with the world support they would have won.

All good points except that you instinctivley fall back to the old line….”A cease fire cant happen without a change in government or leadership in Palestine.” which lives in the same Zionist media bag as ‘we’ve got nobody to negotiate with’ because we’ve targeted assassinations using Hellfire missiles from drones at anybody who showed leadership.

if Israel were interested in stopping Hamas rockets it knows exactly how to proceed: accept Hamas offers for a cease-fire. In June 2008, Israel and Hamas reached a cease-fire agreement. The Israeli government formally acknowledges that until Israel broke the agreeement on November 4, invading Gaza and killing half a dozen Hamas activists, Hamas did not fire a single rocket. Hamas offered to renew the cease-fire. The Israeli cabinet considered the offer and rejected it, preferring to launch its murderous and destructive Operation Cast Lead on December 27. Evidently, there is no justification for the use of force “in self-defense” unless peaceful means have been exhausted. In this case they were not even tried, althoughÑor perhaps becauseÑthere was every reason to suppose that they would succeed.

http://chomsky.info/articles/20100602.htm

…just to turn world opinion against Israel, which has every right to defend itself from a group seeking to annihilate them.

Posted by albury | July 5, 2010, 6:03 am

tell you what Albury…you read the Goldstone report on Operation Cast Lead

http://www2.ohchr.org/english/bodies/hrcouncil/specialsession/9/docs/UNFFMGC_Report.pdf

in conjunction with the Defense for Children International report ‘Bearing the Brunt Again’

http://www.dci-pal.org/english/publ/display.cfm?DocId=1258&CategoryId=8

and ‘Breaking The Silence’

http://www.breakingthesilence.org.il/oferet/index_e.asp

Israeli soldiers talk about the Occupied Territories

and i’ll flick thru your beloved NIST report on how burning office furniture pancaked WTC7 .

You can “flick through” the NIST reports or stay ignorant, goyim, but there were certainly no planted explosives at the WTC on 9/11. If you disagree with them, it would be helpful to know wtf you’re talking about anyway.
As for the Palestinian situation, a cease fire has been tried numerous times with various groups intent on destroying Israel, and Hamas simply attacks them anyway. Israel has nothing to gain from starting these conflicts, but Hamas solidifies control of its people by uniting them against an enemy they’ve created, and uses the Israeli counterattacks for propaganda.

This chucklehead thinks it’s important to note that they took 3 Israeli hostages and eventually released them instead of killing them. At least they had the good sense not to kill them, or their own problems would have gotten a lot worse.

” Israel has nothing to gain from starting these conflicts,…”
Posted by albury | July 5, 2010, 10:23 am

Israel does not need this piece of land, one of the most densely populated in the world, and lacking any natural resources. The problem is that one cannot let Gaza free, if one wants to keep the West Bank. A third of the occupied Palestinians live in the Gaza strip. If they were given freedom, they would become the center of the Palestinian struggle for liberation, with free access to the Western and Arab world.

To control the West Bank, Israel needs full control of Gaza.

The new form of control Israel has developed is turning the whole of the Strip into a prison camp completely sealed off from the world.

Besieged occupied people with nothing to hope for, and no alternative means of political struggle, will always seek ways to fight their oppressor.

The imprisoned Gaza Palestinians found a way to disturb the life of the Israelis in the vicinity of the Strip, by launching home-made Qassam rockets across the Gaza wall against Israeli towns bordering the Strip. These primitive rockets lack the precision to focus on a target, and have rarely caused Israeli casualties; they do however cause physical and psychological damage and seriously disturb life in the targeted Israeli neighborhoods. In the eyes of many Palestinians, the Qassams are a response to the war Israel has declared on them.

As a student from Gaza said to the New York Times, “Why should we be the only ones who live in fear? With these rockets, the Israelis feel fear, too. We will have to live in peace together, or live in fear together.” [3]
The mightiest army in the Middle East has no military answer to these home-made rockets. One answer that presents itself is what Hamas has been proposing all along – a comprehensive cease-fire.

http://www.stateofnature.org/alwaysTheVictim.htm

Tanya Reinhart is Professor Emeritus of Linguistics and Media Studies at Tel Aviv University and as of January 2007, a Global Distinguished Professor at NYU. She has been a frequent op-ed writer for the Israeli evening paper Yediot Aharonot. She is the author of Israel/Palestine – How to End the War of 1948, Seven Stories, NY, 2002, 2005, and her new book: The Road Map to Nowhere appears in September 2006 (Verso).

“This chucklehead thinks it’s important to note that they took 3 Israeli hostages and eventually released them instead of killing them. At least they had the good sense not to kill them, or their own problems would have gotten a lot worse.”

Posted by albury | July 5, 2010, 10:37 am

Have a chuckle about this Albury you disgusting maggot….

White Phosphorous on Children:

“I filled a bucket with
water and poured it on my burning father. The flames grew bigger after I had poured the water on him.
Ahmed then brought a blanket and placed it on my father’s body. The smoke came out from under the
blanket. Ahmed and I dragged my father. I thought I was dragging only my father, but I realized I was
dragging Shahd, Abdel Raheem and Hamza in addition to my father. They were all attached to each
other,” he continued. Their father had been decapitated and appeared to be clinging to Shahd, Hamza
and Abdel Raheem, their charred bodies glued together.

( excerpt from Defense for Children International report ‘Bearing the Brunt Again’

http://www.dci-pal.org/english/publ/display.cfm?DocId=1258&CategoryId=8)

Have a chuckle about this, goyim:

http://articles.latimes.com/2008/mar/04/world/fg-rockets4

http://english.aljazeera.net/news/middleeast/2008/12/200812306307620900.html

http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2008-01/20/content_7459191.htm

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/7805834.stm

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/28/world/africa/28iht-28mideast.10511945.html

http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/para/hamas-qassam.htm

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/human-rights-watch/gazaisrael-hamas-rocket-a_b_252795.html

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CnMa2FR9Ihs&feature=related

http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2008/12/hamas-chinese-a/
http://www.zionism-israel.com/maps/Hamas_rocket_range_map.htm

http://www.adl.org/main_Israel/rocket_attacks_sderot.htm

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/11/15/world/middleeast/15gaza.html

http://www.jihadwatch.org/2009/01/hamas-fires-rockets-into-kindergarten-schoolyard.html

Your compassion is selective and hypocritical.

fortunately Albury I don’t share your crippled maggot humour…
the death, pain and oppression of children is something that I find evil and horrendous and I swear on the life of my own children and as a mother that I will do all in my ability to stop broken sad little people like you from delivering and excusing more of this violence on to children and civilians…be they Palestinian or Jewish.

Testimonies from Prison:

Maha ‘Awwad, who was arrested
in November 2004 is another woman
prisoner who got severely tortured during
the early hours of her detention. Maha
says, “as soon as I arrived to Hawwara
detention center, an Israeli soldier kicked me till blood poured out of my mouth, and another soldier threatened to rape
me; I was imprisoned in an abandoned cell, with a wet and dirty mattress and no
water was available; when I asked for water, a soldier peed in a bottle and gave it to me to drink; the food was bad, and flies were all over it; bad ventilation and
the windows were broken, in addition there was no yard, and the toilets were far
from the detention room.”
Iman al ’Akhras, another Palestinian prisoner, was interrogated in Etzion
jail, she says, “I was chained to a chair for three consecutive days, with no food,
drink, toilet, or sleep.”

Akram Abu ‘Amr, On International Women’s Day: The Women’s Information and Media Center,
8/3/2008.

March 04, 2008|Ashraf Khalil, Times Staff Writer
GAZA CITY — Within hours of the Israeli army’s predawn withdrawal from the Gaza Strip on Monday, Hamas was declaring victory in its latest round of armed conflict with the Jewish state.

To punctuate its point, more than a dozen rockets were launched during the day at nearby Israeli towns. The message: The two-day Israeli tank incursion that killed more than 60 Palestinians had failed to cripple the rocket-launching capability of Gaza’s militants.

The above is from your first link Albury

lets see … after a two day Palestinian tank incursion backed up by Apache helicopters which killed 60 Jewish women and children in Tel Aviv, Israel fired a dozen homemade missiles at the West Bank that killed nobody.

More than 380 people have been killed, including at least 61 women and children, in four consecutive days of Israeli bombardment and local hospitals are saying they are unable to cope with any more casualties.
Four Israeli citizens have been killed by missiles fired from Palestinian positions since the Israeli offensive on Gaza began on Saturday.

“We are ready to deepen and widen the operation in order to make sure that the calm and tranquility will come back to the region”

Ehud Barak,
Israeli defence minister

On Tuesday the soaring death toll and mounting international protests led to calls from the United Nations and the European Union for both sides to agree to a 48-hour humanitarian ceasefire.

But Israel’s defence minister, Ehud Barak, said that
“We believe that this is our primal contract with our citizens to protect them against terrorist attacks.”

The armed wing of Hamas has said it will step up its rocket attacks on Israel if the Israeli military continues its deadly bombardment of the Gaza Strip.

“We tell the leaders of the enemy – if you continue with your assault, we will hit with our rockets further than the cities we have hit so far,” a masked spokesman for Ezzedine al-Qassam Brigades said in a televised statement on Tuesday.

“If you think that Hamas and al-Qassam will be crushed, we will rise up from the rubble,” he said.

The Hamas statement followed Israeli warnings that the onslaught in the Gaza Strip could last for “weeks”.

“There is no room for a ceasefire,” Meir Sheetrit told reporters, adding that the Israeli military would not stop its operations “before breaking the will of Palestinians, of Hamas, to continue to fire at Israel.”

Defense for Children International report on Operation Cast Lead is here:

http://www.dci-pal.org/english/publ/display.cfm?DocId=1258&CategoryId=8

UN General Assembly

HUMAN RIGHTS SITUATION IN PALESTINE AND
OTHER OCCUPIED ARAB TERRITORIES
Report of the Special Rapporteur on the situation of human rights in the Palestinian territories occupied since 1967, Richard Falk*

‘ In the context of protecting Israeli
society from rockets fired from Gaza, the evidence overwhelmingly supports the conclusion that
the ceasefire in place as of 19 June 2008 had been an effective instrument for achieving this goal,
as measured by the incidence of rockets fired and with regard to Israeli casualties sustained.
12. The graph below, based on Israeli sources, shows the number of Palestinian rockets and
mortar shells fired each month in 2008, with the period of the ceasefire stretching basically from
its initiation on 19 June to its effective termination on 4 November, when Israel struck a lethal
blow in Gaza that reportedly killed at least six Hamas operatives. It dramatically demonstrates
the extent to which the ceasefire was by far the most secure period with respect to the threats
posed by the rockets.
Number of Palestinian rockets and mortar shells
fired in 2008 …’

page 8

The above report can be accessed here:

http://www2.ohchr.org/english/bodies/hrcouncil/docs/10session/A.HRC.10.20.pdf

The post by goyim | July 5, 2010, 11:58 am

was extracted from one of Albury’s links:

http://english.aljazeera.net/news/middleeast/2008/12/200812306307620900.html

I don’t find the suffering of any people, especially innocent children, to be humorous either, goyim, but you’re ignoring the fact that Hamas is far more responsible for it than the Israelis are.
You’re also trivializing the deaths of nearly 3000 innocent people in the US by blaming it on anyone other than al Qaeda, so you’re clearly a hypocrite.

“but you’re ignoring the fact that Hamas is far more responsible for it than the Israelis are.”

Wrong.

Wrong wrong wrong.

Israel’s shitty expansionist policies are at the root of this conflict.

http://trueslant.com/matthewsteinglass/files/2010/03/israel-palestine-map.jpg

“You’re also trivializing the deaths of nearly 3000 innocent people in the US by blaming it on anyone other than al Qaeda, so you’re clearly a hypocrite.”

And you’re clearly a disinfo fuckwit, albury.

What “expansionist policies” was Israel exhibiting prior to being attacked by Egypt, Syria, and Jordan in the ’40s, and on all of the other occasions when they’ve been targeted by their Moslem neighbors since then, ew?

“What “expansionist policies” was Israel exhibiting prior to being attacked by Egypt, Syria, and Jordan in the ’40s, and on all of the other occasions when they’ve been targeted by their Moslem neighbors since then, ew?”

Establishing itself in the region ?

As the people of Israel learned immediately, ew, militarily preventing their neighbors from overrunning their tiny piece of land and annihilating them was a necessary way to establish themselves in the region, unfortunately.

Yes – israel is in itself an act of colonial conquest, isn’t it albury.

Yes, ew, the expansionist UN partitioned the tiny piece of land in 1947.

Tom Segev:

“”Entire cities and hundreds of villages left empty were repopulated with new [Jewish] immigrants…

Free people – Arabs – had gone into exile and become destitute refugees; destitute refugees…Jews…took the exiles’ places in the first step in their lives as free people..”

One group [Palestinians] lost all they had while the other [Jews] found everything they needed – tables, chairs, closets, pots, pans, plates, sometimes clothes, family albums, books radios, pets….”
Tom Segev (Hebrew: תום שגב‎) (born March 1, 1945) is an Israeli historian, author and journalist. He is associated with Israel’s so-called New Historians, a group challenging many of the country’s traditional narratives.

Tom Segev was born in Jerusalem in 1945. He studied history and political science at the Hebrew University of Jerusalem.

Segev worked during the 1970s as a correspondent for Maariv in Bonn. He was a visiting professor at Rutgers University (2001–2002), the University of California at Berkeley (2007) and Northeastern University, where he taught a course on Holocaust denial. He writes a weekly column for the newspaper Haaretz. His books have appeared in nine languages.

Israeli Navy surrounds aid vessel

http://www.presstv.ir/detail.aspx?id=134650&sectionid=351020202

Secretary of State Clinton:

Now That the Wedding Is Over,

Could You Respond to Requests From American Citizens on the Gaza Flotilla?

http://www.commondreams.org/view/2010/08/05-6

Explaining Murder ~ Israeli Hasbara in Full Swing

The hasbara industry is in full swing at the moment as Benjamin Netanyahu’s government pulls out all the stops to create a smokescreen to cover its crimes.

Leading from the front Mr Netanyahu sat in front of the Turkel Commission for four hours on Monday,

although anyone hoping to hear anything of interest would have been disappointed.

Mr Netanyahu only spoke in front of the public for ninety minutes of that time during which he regaled the committee with complaints about Hamas, Sderot and Gilad Shalit.

He told the committee that Israel had a right to search for weapons on board the flotilla.

(Israel has since announced that it found no weapons for Hamas.
Did nine people really have to die so that Israel could confirm the certification the flotilla already had?)

He further told them that there was no humanitarian crisis in Gaza as a result of the blockade it was just a ‘bogus rationale […] to break the blockade’.

So there we are.

The International Committee of the Red Cross was lying on 14 June when it said:

“The closure therefore constitutes a collective punishment imposed in clear violation of Israel’s obligation under international humanitarian law.”

Or when in 2008 the same august institution said 70% of the Gazan population suffers from food insecurity.

That Judge Turkel allowed him to drone on in this way bodes ill for the end result.

As though nine dead (and it could yet turn to eleven),

fifty-five injured and the rest of the 700 people abducted, abused, humiliated and subjected to cruel and sadistic behaviour

was not important enough for the committee to concentrate on.

But that as always is the name of the game.

Only Israeli victim hood is of any consequence.

Nine Israeli hoods got a legal beating.

That’s important.

Nothing else matters.

Read the rest here :

http://www.politicaltheatrics.net/2010/08/explaining-murder-israeli-hasbara-in-full-swing/

The Freedom Flotilla was not able to deliver its 10,000 tons of humanitarian aid to the besieged Gaza Strip,

but it accomplished something more important

– it finally broke the blockade on the world’s understanding of the Gaza crisis.

The Israeli attack on the flotilla must be seen alongside the Israeli attack on Gaza in the winter of 2008-2009 as marking the period in which the world’s understanding of the Israeli occupation irrevocably shifted.

In this opening, the brutality of the Israeli occupation came into full view and the issue of Palestinian persecution was placed on op-ed pages and even legal briefs.

In the end, these events may mark when the age of Israeli impunity came to an end.

Read the rest here :

http://www.alternet.org/world/147823/why_the_deadly_attack_on_the_freedom_flotilla_was_the_breakthrough_that_made_the_world_see_israel%27s_cruelty_in_gaza/?page=2

150 Irish Artists Pledge to Boycott Israel

A CULTURAL boycott of Israel was launched yesterday, with more than 150 Irish artists announcing that they intend not to perform or exhibit in Israel, or to accept any funding from institutions linked to the Israeli government.

The Ireland Palestine Solidarity Campaign (IPSC) said it was in protest at Israel’s “treatment of the Palestinian people”.

http://www.intifada-palestine.com/2010/08/150-irish-artists-pledge-to-boycott-israel/